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incomingpain ◴[] No.42193633[source]
As a Canadian, where would I go abroad to? We do have our first ever illegitimate prime minister; found guilty of major civil right violations. Seizing bank accounts without court order or any due process. Arresting people on charges of mischief for words said online. State media willing to publish extreme lies to justify the government's illegal behaviours...

It's reasonable to wish to leave Canada; but generally speaking its the rest of the world seeking to move to Canada.

Australia? Lots going really well for them. I do have family in WA. Their government debt is good, economically still a powerhouse, despite government's efforts to kill their domestic industry. At least in WA, their driving laws are some of the dumbest ive seen in the world. 1km/h over the speed limit and you get a maximum speeding ticket? They have roaming speed trap cameras? Speed limits adjust multiple times in under a km. Speed limits are artificially low to produce ticket revenue. The only place ive ever been pulled over and forced to blow a machine. Nanny state problems big time in australia. Australia's gun laws eliminate the consideration of ever moving there.

Finland, norway, czech, switzerland, estonia, lithuania, look like great options, but language barrier concerns. But worse... you folks have a nutjob neighbour to the east with nukes. I currently live out of reach for everthing except their ICBMs, im not moving into range.

It would seem to me the only place for me would be to move to the USA.

Right off the top, I'd never move to any stop and identify state. Which eliminates most good states to live in. Do the same again for constitutional carry. Texas, Idaho, Wyoming, missippi, are still options. Long story short, it seems Texas is the place to go.

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1. munksbeer ◴[] No.42205631[source]
> Australia's gun laws eliminate the consideration of ever moving there.

Interesting to see how people filter. From my perspective, that would be a plus point of moving there. I love that you cannot own a gun in the UK.

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2. incomingpain ◴[] No.42214235[source]
Ive been to Australia twice. LOVED IT there are so many good reasons to go and I'm not at all scared of their poisonous critters.

>Interesting to see how people filter. From my perspective, that would be a plus point of moving there. I love that you cannot own a gun in the UK.

As a Canadian, I legitimately didnt understand the value or brilliance of the 2nd amendment until the last few years.

If you live in a country which doesn't have civilian ownership of guns, you dont live in a free country. You may have been misled into believing it is a free country but it's not. That's black and white.

You mention UK.

How about your "Snoopers charter" where the UK government has a full copy of every text, comment, or phonecall. The only thing they dont collect is video chats. They have an extensive database log of you and they know more about you and your personality than you do.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-60707646

Howabout major civil rights violations and disallowing of protests?

How about that windrush scandal? The rwanda deportations?

How about all the arrests of journalists? David Miranda was killed by MI6.

https://www.mygov.scot/police-stop-search

The scot police can just stop and search you and your vehicle whenever they please?

In the USA, 1st amendment auditors are all over youtube because police in usa think they can get away with this, but apparently stop and search your papers in the UK is real?

The USA has Terry-Ohio but the UK has never had that i guess?

How about the UK's "non-crime hate incidents" which straight up is just anti-free speech. But then again the UK has no affirmative right to free speech.

How about that guy who said mean words online, was anti-migrant. 3 years in prison for speech.

Lets be realistic, the UK isnt a free country and there's literally only 1 reason why. The lack of civilian ownership of firearms.

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3. munksbeer ◴[] No.42229206[source]
> Lets be realistic, the UK isnt a free country

There is no such thing as a free country. Ever since the first few homo sapiens pooled their resources and formed a tribe, they had to compromise their freedoms and agree common rules.

I agree that there are a lot of undesirable things about the UK, but I we don't have much worry about being shot. I like it that way.

> and there's literally only 1 reason why. The lack of civilian ownership of firearms.

I don't agree with that conclusion.