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EU is in a perpetual state of decline and it seems there are no solutions in sight that would change its path in the next decade.

Everything seems so stagnant and the costs of living are rising while the salaries do not increase whatsoever.

What's worse is that due to its economic decline politicians and leaders try to persuade the populace that a lot of things that we enjoy and contribute to our quality of life are now considered luxury or outright sinful. The same kind of rhetoric that is used to sin tax tobacco, alcohol, gambling is now used on things like:

- car ownership - Air Conditioning - Travel - meat and dairy

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2rsf ◴[] No.42202862[source]
Like others here I don't have a good advice, but what do you mean by making "- car ownership - Air Conditioning - Travel - meat and dairy" sinful?
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aswerty ◴[] No.42205287[source]
Just from a foreigner in Amsterdam.

Car owners are considered selfish, it is not considered a sustainable or equitable form of transport.

Air Conditioning, not a traditional things but getting more popular, not considered sustainable.

Travel, airplanes produce a lot of emissions and aren't considered sustainable. Not uncommon for people say why aren't your traveling somewhere closer and/or taking the train across Europe.

Meat, bad for the environment, bad for the animals. Non meat options are extremely popular here.

Dairy, if you ask for milk in a cafe they might play dumb and then ask you "do you mean cow milk". Most of the above I agree with, but I love my milk. Damn passive aggressive baristas! But yeah, the dairy industry is pretty abhorrent so they have that going for them.

All in all though, I'm probably the type of person the OP is probably trying to get away from. But honestly, Europe has plenty of problems but this stuff is literally why I love Europe

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1. badpun ◴[] No.42205400[source]
That's Amsterdam. I'm betting in small towns (not to mention rural areas) in Netherlands the opposite beliefs are much more popular.