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26 points mathverse | 2 comments | | HN request time: 0.417s | source

EU is in a perpetual state of decline and it seems there are no solutions in sight that would change its path in the next decade.

Everything seems so stagnant and the costs of living are rising while the salaries do not increase whatsoever.

What's worse is that due to its economic decline politicians and leaders try to persuade the populace that a lot of things that we enjoy and contribute to our quality of life are now considered luxury or outright sinful. The same kind of rhetoric that is used to sin tax tobacco, alcohol, gambling is now used on things like:

- car ownership - Air Conditioning - Travel - meat and dairy

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lysace ◴[] No.42195592[source]
Where to: US.
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tartoran ◴[] No.42195652[source]
Emigrating to the US at the moment isn't too great either.
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lysace ◴[] No.42195684[source]
For talented tech people: It's where the money is.

In the EU the compensation difference between top 1% and bottom 1% performers is generally absurdly small.

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bdangubic ◴[] No.42197397[source]
I think (outside of outliers) this is a common misconception. while your salary might be higher in the US we are paying a sh*tton of money for things that europeans generally do not, ESPECIALLY if you are a parent like myself.

I am meticulous about tracking finance and so far (my daughter is 11) I have spent $374k which if I lived in Europe would now be in my pocket. This isn’t total expenses, this is only expenses that I have to pay for here that I would not otherwise. I also have another decade+ of raising and schooling etc to pay for

Roughly another $50k per year on average I spend currently on other things that I would not be if I lived in Europe…

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iteria ◴[] No.42200316[source]
As someone with a kid, I'm trying to figure out how. First off the average spend for a kid if we can believe reports is 250K and honestly, feels like there's outliers bringing that up. My parents most certainly spend nowhere near that on me.

But even for my kid, who lives a very middle class lifestyle, I don't see how I'm dump even half that into her and she's half your kid's age. I know for a fact that I have not spent that much. My healthcare spend has gone up 3K/year. everything involved in pregnancy up to birth was 8K. I pay for a private school which is than the daycare. I pay for extra activities. Even then I'm not at 100K and most of it is the privage school, I don't have to pay for, but wanted to to better accommodate my special needs kid when she was young. I'm not even doing that next year. I'm struggling to consider where I'd find another 150K+ to spend on her beyond mandated things like clothing. Are you talking college? I guess I'm lucky my state has a state scholarship and community college is free regardless. It's how I only paid 20K to get a bachelor's. I assume my kid will do the same whatever she picks.

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1. bdangubic ◴[] No.42204370[source]
my kid has been in daycare from the time she was 2 until time she was 6, that is $2,100/month. she started school at 6 and is now in 6th grade at $30k/year (sending a kid to public school amounts to child abuse unless you can't afford it if for nothing else than having to worry about ak-47's).

at 7 years old she started playing volleyball at a local club, $5.5k/year first 3 years, $12k this year. we are up to $217k. HI is my wife and daughter combined, on average $1.5k/year so let's split that, $750/month, we'll round this to $100k so we are up to $317k. The rest are summer camps...

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2. 0xBDB ◴[] No.42209184[source]
I don't know if daycare is free in the EU, and I know that some higher education is, but I am confident that private school, summer camp and club sports are not.

You could argue that it would be possible to send your kid to public school safely in the EU, but it would also be possible to send your kid to public school safely in an affluent North American suburb.

It seems you have made lifestyle choices that are perfectly fine but that I would not expect to be subsidized in an egalitarian society, much less an individualistic one.