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Why don't you move abroad?

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199 points orkohunter | 4 comments | 20 Nov 24 08:23 UTC | HN request time: 0.917s | source
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hshshshshsh ◴[20 Nov 24 09:22 UTC] No.42192136[source]▶
To people who are considering moving abroad you should do it.

Don't let nationalism stop you. You were randomly born in your country.

Choose your country. Don't let randomness and some emotional baggage control where you want to live.

You have a finite live. Make most of it.

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vegabook ◴[20 Nov 24 09:28 UTC] No.42192171[source]▶
You were anything but “randomly born in your country”. You are most likely the latest branch in a sedentary tree rooted both geographically and culturally for centuries, and without that tree you certainly wouldn’t exist. This doesn’t mean you shouldn’t travel, perhaps plant a new tree, but the idea that you were born randomly is obviously false.
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hshshshshsh ◴[20 Nov 24 09:32 UTC] No.42192190[source]▶
From your point of view you were born randomly in a universe in a random country to random parents. Yes. There is a story once you were born. But as far you are concerned you could have been born as anything in any Universe. There would always be a story backing it up.
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amiga386 ◴[20 Nov 24 09:48 UTC] No.42192276[source]▶
But you are not a tabula rasa. You are made of a genetic code inherited from your parents, which strongly determines how you look and your body can do. You were clothed, fed, raised, cultured, taught by your family and others in their geographic area.

The self has a heritage even if the self refuses to accept it. You are your parents' child and not someone else, for the same reason you are also a human, a hominid, a mammal, not a fish or a tree.

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hshshshshsh ◴[20 Nov 24 09:52 UTC] No.42192293[source]▶
If I am made of genetic code, why do they say I die and no longer exists even though the body remains?
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1. amiga386 ◴[21 Nov 24 04:09 UTC] No.42201011[source]▶
Your genetic code shapes who you are and how you appear to others when you're alive.

If you're alluding to the existence of some transcendental self, can you at least accept it is inseparable from your corporeal self?

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2. hshshshshsh ◴[22 Nov 24 13:54 UTC] No.42213840[source]▶
I think the corporeal self is an illusion.
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3. amiga386 ◴[23 Nov 24 15:23 UTC] No.42221368[source]▶
Perhaps you are right, Neo. Perhaps we are in the Matrix. But you lack evidence for your position. How could you tell if you're a transcendental spirit, and not a brain in a jar suffering from last Thursdayism?

I have plenty of evidence that we're bags of chemicals wandering around a rock in space, and our consciousness is the results of electical signals passing through our synapses. If you wish to reduce the majesty of nature to "unknowable", you reduce your own position to unknowable too. If you're fine with that, I'm fine too, but I still like my position better than yours.

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4. hshshshshsh ◴[24 Nov 24 17:15 UTC] No.42228959{3}[source]▶
The only thing you know is you are aware. Rest everything mere appearances in the awareness. And that includes all the what ifs, the idea that you have evidence and you are sure.