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getpost ◴[] No.42199072[source]
If anything you ever say during routine business operations can end up as evidence, clear and honest communication will suffer. The effectiveness of organizations, including the ability to act ethically, will be seriously degraded.

There needs to be some kind of work product doctrine, which protects the privacy of routine business communication. Defining that, while allowing the collection of evidence of criminal activity, won't be easy, but the current state of affairs is unworkable.

I don't wish to facilitate corporate crime, and it's obvious that some of Google's anti-competitive behavior is unlawful. But, I don't see any realistic alternative to what Google is doing in the current legal environment.

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Retric ◴[] No.42199223[source]
It ends up as evidence when routine business operations are breaking the law. Everywhere I’ve worked hasn’t had an issue with this stuff being tracked and several places actively preferred when stuff was recorded. Most companies don’t have an issue with clear communication because they’re not worried about what’s being said will end up part of a criminal investigation.

So this is something that’s almost exclusively going to harm criminal organizations by making them less efficient.

That sounds like a win win.

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1. Ferret7446 ◴[] No.42200549[source]
"Give me six lines written by the most honorable of men, and I will find an excuse in them to hang him."

I would guess you haven't had to experience such an unfair situation personally as you still have that young/naive optimism about the world. If you ever find yourself entangled in some legal technicality, you will realize that that is a really bad idea.

On a similar note, never talk to the police, no matter how lawful you may think you are.

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2. Retric ◴[] No.42200608[source]
This isn’t just me talking, this is internal legal advice at multiple large organizations who have been through a great number of lawsuits. It basically boiled down to document everything.