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    Google stops letting sites like Forbes rule search for "Best CBD Gummies"

    (arstechnica.com)
    212 points pseudolus | 16 comments | 20 Nov 24 21:07 UTC | HN request time: 0.667s | source | bottom
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    Ancalagon ◴[20 Nov 24 22:25 UTC] No.42198762[source]▶
    Hopefully this is a step in the right direction. Google's search results have gotten so bad - seems like even some of the simplest searches are just packed with AI generated and SEO garbage. I don't even want SearchGPT do take over the search market space because I'm almost sure it will still be garbage. Just bring back the google from 5-10 years ago please :(.
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    1. paxys ◴[20 Nov 24 23:17 UTC] No.42199148[source]▶
    > Just bring back the google from 5-10 years ago please

    What you really want is the internet from 5-10 years ago (really even longer than that), and that's not coming back.

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    2. vasco ◴[20 Nov 24 23:43 UTC] No.42199358[source]▶
    I'm fine with this internet but the previous search.
    3. NewJazz ◴[20 Nov 24 23:43 UTC] No.42199366[source]▶
    Exactly. In a constantly changing world, you need constantly changing policy to achieve the same outcomes. Even then you probably won't replicate the past universe perfectly.
    4. viewtransform ◴[20 Nov 24 23:49 UTC] No.42199417[source]▶
    append ' before:2023' to your google searches.
    5. dpkirchner ◴[20 Nov 24 23:50 UTC] No.42199428[source]▶
    I want the Internet from 5-10 years ago before Google incentivized this much SEO garbage. It wasn't awesome then but it was a lot better.
    6. kevinmchugh ◴[20 Nov 24 23:51 UTC] No.42199433[source]▶
    Google search degraded in usefulness before the panda update, when spammers had filled the web with low quality content designed to exploit Google's algorithms. Google improved their search to punish the content farms, and people were happy with that search for many years.
    7. fragmede ◴[21 Nov 24 00:08 UTC] No.42199568[source]▶
    What I really want is me from 5-10 years ago. When can we get a pill that will do that?
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    8. firecall ◴[21 Nov 24 00:24 UTC] No.42199691[source]▶
    Agreed. That’s really my thoughts.

    The internet or rather the crawlable WWW itself has changed.

    The WWW content itself is no longer what it was.

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    9. firecall ◴[21 Nov 24 00:26 UTC] No.42199697[source]▶
    You could probably take some pills that will make you think you are! LOL

    I feel like testosterone therapy should be more readily available….

    10. chipsrafferty ◴[21 Nov 24 00:30 UTC] No.42199725[source]▶
    Do you think the proliferation of web frameworks makes it harder to crawl?
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    11. grugagag ◴[21 Nov 24 00:41 UTC] No.42199822[source]▶
    You could get there somewhat. Do you exercise? Ready to put in some effort?
    12. thwarted ◴[21 Nov 24 02:10 UTC] No.42200359{3}[source]▶
    Probably has some influence. Because everything needs to be an app, implemented as an SPA, rather than just a web page. Hypertext is dead.
    13. Terr_ ◴[21 Nov 24 03:03 UTC] No.42200675[source]▶
    A close approximation might be a search-mode which penalizes results based on how many ads they have and how much of the page they cover...
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    14. nielsbot ◴[21 Nov 24 05:42 UTC] No.42201477[source]▶
    i would love for pages to also be ranked by readability…

    seems like local news sites are the absolute worst in this area

    15. rockskon ◴[21 Nov 24 08:09 UTC] No.42202149[source]▶
    Search has degraded substantially in the past 5 years for reasons wholly, completely, and absolutely unrelated to SEO blogspam.

    Google of 5 years ago didn't ignore words in almost every single query I made. Google of 5 years ago didn't constantly give me irrelevant garbage because they keep ignoring the words I use in my query.

    This is a wholly separate issue from SEO crap. Ignoring search terms is 100% a Google issue and is 100% Google's fault!

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    16. Discordian93 ◴[21 Nov 24 09:10 UTC] No.42202454[source]▶
    Yes they did. It has been getting steadily worse since 2014 or so.