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    What is the origin of the lake tank image that has become a meme? (2021)

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    544 points napolux | 11 comments | 20 Nov 24 13:30 UTC | HN request time: 0.818s | source | bottom
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    mxfh ◴[20 Nov 24 16:51 UTC] No.42195789[source]▶
    Since Know Your Meme doesn't give the reference for why it's a lake, maybe not everybody is familiar with british lore:

    The mythical Lady of the Lake:

    Probably best known via Monthy Python:

    Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

    In short: She teaches Lancelot arts and writing, infusing him with wisdom and courage, and overseeing his training to become an unsurpassed warrior.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_of_the_Lake

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnigmaticEmpower...

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    mrandish ◴[20 Nov 24 17:58 UTC] No.42196519[source]▶
    This reminds me that Monty Python and the Holy Grail contributed actual historical knowledge about Arthurian legends to my knowledge base while growing up. Other examples of Python unintentional education include knowing the names of a myriad of obscure cheeses (the cheese shop skit), a shocking number of anachronistic synonyms for death (the parrot skit) and notable contributions of the Roman Empire (Life of Brian 'What have the Romans ever done for us?' skit).

    While it didn't contribute to my GPA at the time, I'm sure I could name more notable philosophers than any other 8th grader in my school (philosopher's song skit). However, in high school it did spark the interest to look up and read about each of the philosophers in the song.

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    graemep ◴[20 Nov 24 20:08 UTC] No.42197622[source]▶
    The problem is that comedy is frequently not factually accurate.

    Roman Imperial contributions? Was Roman wine better than pre-Roman wine in that region? Did they improve sanitation, irrigation, medicine etc.? Rome was an oppressive slavery based society.

    Then what about the Spanish Inquisition sketch? It keeps repeating "fanatically devoted to the Pope"" The Spanish inquisition was an arm of the Spanish monarchy, at least two Popes tried to shut it down, and some historians have suggested one of its aims was to reduce the power of the Papacy.

    I do like the Philosopher's Song, the Dead Parrot and Cheese Shop.

    Other comedies are no better. Black Adder has a witchfinder (an early modorn innovation) in a Medieval setting.

    Pop culture is not historically accurate!

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    1. Miraste ◴[20 Nov 24 21:06 UTC] No.42198101[source]▶
    >Did they improve sanitation, irrigation, medicine etc.?

    They built a network of aqueducts that was the largest in the world for a thousand years. The plumbing and sewage systems they installed in their cities were so effective that some are not just intact, but in use, right now. There are plenty of negative points you can raise about the Roman Empire, but water systems aren't one of them.

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    2. lo_zamoyski ◴[20 Nov 24 21:48 UTC] No.42198471[source]▶
    And let us not forget about Roman law.
    3. bigiain ◴[20 Nov 24 21:50 UTC] No.42198486[source]▶
    But apart from the aqueducts, what have the Romans ever done for us?
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    4. notarealllama ◴[20 Nov 24 21:58 UTC] No.42198543[source]▶
    Okay, but apart from orthography and aquaducts, what have the Romans ever done for us?

    Now as punishment go write this on the wall 100 times!

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    5. baud147258 ◴[20 Nov 24 22:38 UTC] No.42198872[source]▶
    well, being part of the Roman Republic/Empire meant peace, even if it was enforced at the tip of a pilum. And the population under the Empire were more prosperous and numerous, so much that the collapse of the Empire in the West had long-lasting negative consequences (I'm mostly basing my opinion off this article: https://acoup.blog/2022/02/11/collections-rome-decline-and-f...)
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    6. mrandish ◴[20 Nov 24 22:57 UTC] No.42199018{3}[source]▶
    Seeing the comedy beats of that scene play out on HN, first unintentionally and then intentionally, has made my day!
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    8. ihaveajob ◴[20 Nov 24 23:39 UTC] No.42199336{3}[source]▶
    Ok, but beside the aqueducts, orthography and lasting peace, what good were the Romans for us?
    9. 71bw ◴[21 Nov 24 08:21 UTC] No.42202210[source]▶
    >some are not just intact, but in use, right now.

    Thanks for giving me something to research at work. What query do you recommend I put into a search engine? "intact aqueducts italy" doesn't seem to help much

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    10. SonOfLilit ◴[21 Nov 24 08:29 UTC] No.42202258[source]▶
    Why Italy? There are (inactive) roman aqueducts as far away as Israel
    11. soyyo ◴[21 Nov 24 09:37 UTC] No.42202567[source]▶
    Start by expanding the countries in your search.

    At its peak, the roman empire covered Europe, North Africa, and parts of Eurasia.

    In Spain the most famous is the one in Segovia, it is incredibly well conserved, but not in actual use.