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mitjam ◴[] No.42193017[source]
It was crossing right on time for the interruptions, a Russian officer was on board, it slowed down while crossing, no other ships were slowing down in that area during that time (rulingnout headwinds) - it cannot get much clearer. China is now participating in hybrid warfare against Europe (unless they present stronger evidence against this assumption)
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greener_grass ◴[] No.42193187[source]
So if Trump is against China, and China aligns with Russia, will Trump then support Ukraine? Interesting (and choppy) times ahead.
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IncreasePosts ◴[] No.42195620[source]
You should probably get it out of your head that Trump supports Russia. Especially considering Russia decided to get frisky with Ukraine in 2014 (during Obama), and 2022(Biden), but took no real action in this regard during the Trump presidency.
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tediousgraffit1 ◴[] No.42196190[source]
This line of reasoning keeps popping up and something about it bothers me - why go to war when you can get what you want in other, cheaper ways? It seems likely the correlation is real but so far no one has adduced any reasons to assume the causation actually goes the way they assume.
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pclmulqdq ◴[] No.42196312[source]
If you note that what Russia wants is Ukrainian territory (first Crimea in 2014 and then a land connection to Crimea in 2022), that was guaranteed to involve some amount of war. That will give you everything you need to infer the correct direction of causation.
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tediousgraffit1 ◴[] No.42196729[source]
Why do you think Russia wants territory? Why did they suddenly develop an appetite for territory in 2014?
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1. ceejayoz ◴[] No.42197602{3}[source]
> Why did they suddenly develop an appetite for territory in 2014?

Did they? They took a chunk of Georgia in 2008 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War) and have been actively occupying some of Moldova since 1990 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria_conflict).