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Between the Booms: AI in Winter – Communications of the ACM

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68 points rbanffy | 4 comments | 20 Nov 24 17:11 UTC | HN request time: 0.789s | source
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DyslexicAtheist ◴[20 Nov 24 19:35 UTC] No.42197320[source]▶
every other article these days on this site is about AI. And it's incredibly tedious and annoying.

Isn't it enough that clueless marketers who get their Tech knowledge from businessinsider and bloomberg are constantly harping on about AI.

Seems we as a community have resigned or given up in this battle against common sense. Maybe long ago. Still there should be some form of moderation penalizing these shill posts that only glorify AI as being the future, ... the same way that not everything about crypto or the blockchain ended up on the FP. Seems with AI we're looking the other way and are OK with it?

Or maybe it's me.

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dgfitz ◴[20 Nov 24 19:38 UTC] No.42197353[source]▶
Nah, it’s not just you.

AI is really neat. I don’t understand how a business model that makes money pops out on the other end.

At least crypto cashed out on NFTs for a while.

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1. DyslexicAtheist ◴[20 Nov 24 20:03 UTC] No.42197570[source]▶
good point about the business model. probably AI has more even the ones reaping the rewards are only 4 or 5 big corps.

It seems with crypto the business "benefits" were mostly adversarial (winners were those doing crimes on the darknet, or to allow ransomware operators to get paid). The underlying blockchain Tech itself though failed to replace transactions in a database.

The main value for AI today seems to be generative Tech to improve the quality of Deepfakes or to help everyone in Business write their communication with an even more "neutral" non-human like voice, free of any emotion, almost psychopathic. Like the dudes who are writing about their achievements on LinkedIn in 3rd person, ... Only now it's psychopathy enabled by the machine.

Also I've seen people who, without AI are barely literate, are now sending emails that look like they've been penned by a post-doc in English literature. The result is it's becoming a lot harder to separate the morons, and knuckle-draggers from those who are worth reaching out and talking to.

yes old man yelling at cloud.

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2. dgfitz ◴[20 Nov 24 20:12 UTC] No.42197661[source]▶
I agree with you. I just don't see the AI "summer" happening.
3. xarope ◴[21 Nov 24 02:57 UTC] No.42200649[source]▶
+1. The other concern is that AI is potentially removing junior level jobs that are often a way for people to gain experience before stepping up into positions with more agency and autonomy. Which means in future we will be dealing with the next generation of "AI told me to do this", but "I have no experience to know whether this is good or not", so "let's do it".
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4. n_ary ◴[21 Nov 24 06:28 UTC] No.42201690[source]▶
On the contrary, Junior positions will be more and growing because now you do not have the fear of Juniors being liability for a while as with very little guidance they can get stuff done while Seniors keep an eye on bigger things and have free time not being spammed by n00b queries.

Also, given the saturation of STEM graduates now, you have proven group of juniors who can learn themselves over expensive lottery of bootcampers who might bail out the moment it is no longer the surface level React anymore.

With AI, more tiny businesses can launch into market and hire juniors and part time expertise to guide the product slowly without the massive VC money requirement.