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    David Heinemeier Hansson joins Shopify's board

    (www.shopify.com)
    54 points doppp | 13 comments | 20 Nov 24 02:09 UTC | HN request time: 0.844s | source | bottom
    1. Alifatisk ◴[20 Nov 24 17:44 UTC] No.42196391[source]▶
    I find it faschinating how much Shopify has invested in Ruby / Rails, at what point will Shopify just merge with the Ruby Team?
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    2. gardenhedge ◴[20 Nov 24 19:35 UTC] No.42197326[source]▶
    Shopify also owns remix/react router
    3. dismalaf ◴[20 Nov 24 19:39 UTC] No.42197359[source]▶
    Probably never. DHH wants to keep Rails small enough that a 1 person founder can use it and be productive with it. Shopify is already massive and some of their projects are taking them in a different direction than DHH wants for Rails. For example, Liquid templates (which are intentionally less powerful than ERB since they're designed to be used by Shopify store owners) and Sorbet (DHH hates types).
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    4. Onavo ◴[20 Nov 24 20:43 UTC] No.42197913[source]▶
    Their pet web framework remix is also quite underfunded compared to Next.js
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    5. ksec ◴[21 Nov 24 01:34 UTC] No.42200143[source]▶
    > Sorbet (DHH hates types).

    I believe Sorbet is from Stripe?

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    6. fjyasdlkjw ◴[21 Nov 24 02:20 UTC] No.42200425{3}[source]▶
    I hope this leads to DHH adopting Sorbet into Rails given Shopify has a strong interest in it.

    On second thought, It is a large investment for something that isn't a core Ruby feature.

    7. gedy ◴[21 Nov 24 02:56 UTC] No.42200646{3}[source]▶
    DHH joining won't help that I suspect
    8. dismalaf ◴[21 Nov 24 03:30 UTC] No.42200826{3}[source]▶
    Ugh, all the companies that start with S and use Ruby. My bad. Got thrown off because they have Sorbet stuff in Ruby LSP and other Sorbet tools. They have 1.1k Github repos... Lots of TS, Go, Rust and lots of non-Rails things...
    9. moomoo11 ◴[21 Nov 24 16:31 UTC] No.42205966[source]▶
    Do people still use rails?
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    10. coffeeindex ◴[21 Nov 24 16:43 UTC] No.42206092[source]▶
    Obviously?
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    11. moomoo11 ◴[21 Nov 24 21:37 UTC] No.42208930{3}[source]▶
    Hm okay I was curious because I remember how popular rails got around like 2012-2014.

    Since then I feel like most people just opt for go/node instead in my experience. Better performance and easier to deploy and scale.

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    12. deciduously ◴[22 Nov 24 02:34 UTC] No.42210658[source]▶
    https://israilsdead.com/
    13. Alifatisk ◴[22 Nov 24 19:33 UTC] No.42216719{4}[source]▶
    I would say the hype around Rails has settled since a long time ago, that is maybe why you feel that but now since Rails 8, it is gathering a little bit momentum again.

    But you should correlate what the talk of the town is with how much something is being used, it is still heavily used and a good option for startups.