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Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times matching when they broke

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sedan_baklazhan ◴[20 Nov 24 10:02 UTC] No.42192369[source]▶
So Two Minutes Of Hate towards Russia is over in this aspect? Very Orwellish.
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myrmidon ◴[20 Nov 24 11:01 UTC] No.42192726[source]▶
What are you even talking about? Are you suggesting that "the West" has a too negative public opinion of Russia or China?

I would argue that interactions/treatment specifically toward Russia, especially by European nations in the last 20 years, was actually too positive and naive-- specifically because unlike Europe, Russia definitely did not leave its imperialistic ambitions behind, and treating/trading with it as a friendly somewhat flawed democracy during those years might have done more harm than good in hindsight.

I'm curious how you think about this?

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sedan_baklazhan ◴[20 Nov 24 11:08 UTC] No.42192760[source]▶
Just yesterday on the front page there was a topic largely consisting of accusations of Russia breaking these cables. Now I see a sudden switch of the "criminal" and a possible start of a new 2-minute of Hate. It's very Orwellish indeed.
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1. myrmidon ◴[20 Nov 24 16:28 UTC] No.42195525[source]▶
People are speculating about whether this was intentional, and, if so, who is to blame.

How is that "Orwellian"?

Russia has quite the recent history of poisoning civilians both native and foreign (do you dispute that?). Those acts are already a significant step above simple sabotage, so why would it be Orwellian to consider them a possible perpetrator?

In my view, common current western view of Russia is everything but:

Orwellian would be a strong, emotional public expressions of hate (with frequently switching target).

Current western view (can only really talk about central Europe) is more of a muted mix of disappointment, sadness and disgust about what Russia did/does in the Ukraine...