←back to thread

How good are American roads?

(www.construction-physics.com)
193 points chmaynard | 2 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source
Show context
kube-system ◴[] No.42194893[source]
> Interestingly, I expected cold places to have lower road quality in general due to things like freeze-thaw cycles and the impact of road salting, but there doesn’t seem to be much correlation. Plenty of cold places (North Dakota, Wyoming, Minnesota) have good-quality roads

Not sure about those states in particular, but I have anecdotally noticed that some of the places with the harshest winters do some of the least road salting -- because salt is mostly usable for light to moderate snowfall and the people who live in the harshest climates are often better equipped to drive on hard packed snow.

replies(7): >>42194956 #>>42194966 #>>42195113 #>>42195205 #>>42196264 #>>42198270 #>>42200489 #
softfalcon ◴[] No.42194966[source]
This is somewhat true where I’m at in Canada. In the city, half the people have proper winter tires, the other half “wing it” with whatever they can afford/put-up-with.

Regularly see accidents all winter long from goofs sliding straight across multiple lanes of traffic or going off into the ditch. Only some of us are prepared.

We don’t salt, only drop sand grit and gravel sparingly. Our roads become ice rinks or snow piles for a decent portion of the winter.

Your comment about us being “better equipped” made me chuckle as I spent this morning watching my neighbours play slip-and-slide in the cul-de-sac cause they opted to not put their winter tires on.

As someone who grew up in the mountains, their behaviour is downright dangerous in my opinion.

replies(6): >>42194996 #>>42195146 #>>42196195 #>>42196364 #>>42197090 #>>42197800 #
grecy ◴[] No.42195146[source]
In (most?all?) of BC winter tires are required by law, and salting the roads is illegal due to the horrific damage the run off does to the environment.
replies(2): >>42195394 #>>42197849 #
1. DCH3416 ◴[] No.42195394[source]
You mean to tell me dumping literal truck loads of salt into the water table is a bad thing? Why does everything that works well have terrible consequences.
replies(1): >>42197398 #
2. bobthepanda ◴[] No.42197398[source]
It also tends to corrode any sort of metal in the structures that it’s on, which also contributes to poor road quality from the article. And it corrodes the cars traveling on it as well.