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Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times matching when they broke

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499 points perihelions | 3 comments | 20 Nov 24 06:56 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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nabla9 ◴[20 Nov 24 08:15 UTC] No.42191758[source]▶
October 2023 there was similar incident where Chinese cargo ship cut Balticonnector cable and EE-S1 cable. Chip named 'Newnew Polar Bear' under Chinese flag and Chinese company Hainan Xin Xin Yang Shipping Co, Ltd. (aka Torgmoll) with CEO named Yelena V. Maksimova, drags anchor in the seabed cutting cables. Chinese investigation claims storm was the reason, but there was no storm, just normal windy autumn weather. The ship just lowered one anchor and dragged it with engines running long time across the seabed until the anchor broke.

These things happen sometimes, ship anchors sometimes damage cables, but not this often and without serious problems in the ship. Russians are attempting plausible deniability.

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spongebobstoes ◴[20 Nov 24 08:20 UTC] No.42191786[source]▶
What are some concrete reasons why someone would want to damage these cables? Who benefits?
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threeseed ◴[20 Nov 24 08:44 UTC] No.42191926[source]▶
When Trump becomes President next year he is expected to demand that Ukraine settle the war with Russia or risk losing US aid and military support. It is why Russia is throwing everything at re-taking Kursk and US is now allowing long range strikes.

If the EU decides to join the US the war is over and Russia will keep the occupied lands. If the EU decides to support Ukraine then because of the devastating sanctions there is a strong chance Russia loses.

So it's in Russia's interest to make life as difficult as possible for Europe over the coming months in order to convince them that ending the war is in their best interest.

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paganel ◴[20 Nov 24 08:54 UTC] No.42191974[source]▶
Russia will not stop taking its land in Kursk back because the Americans tell them to do so, this is just Western delusion, and, as I've said before on this forum, a complete misunderstanding coming from the Westerners on how Russia operates.

> devastating sanctions

Devastating for Europe, you mean.

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suraci ◴[20 Nov 24 11:04 UTC] No.42192738[source]▶
I'm very curious, can any European here, or perhaps a German for specificity, tell me whether they believe these sanctions have harmed Russia more than Europe?

Also it would be better if any Russians here could answer a similar question

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1. rksbank ◴[20 Nov 24 15:28 UTC] No.42194720{4}[source]▶
As a European, I can say that the sanctions did harm European economies, which is reflected in various political Eu government crises.

It is hard to know how much Russia has been harmed, because both sides probably exaggerate the figures.

I wonder whether "more harm" is the right question. The question should be whether the sanctions have any impact on Russia's war economy, which they do not. If anything, they make Russia more independent and strengthen Russian ties with China and India.

This is all to the detriment of the EU, the only one here who profits is the U.S. by making the EU more dependent.

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2. sekai ◴[20 Nov 24 19:15 UTC] No.42197165[source]▶
> It is hard to know how much Russia has been harmed, because both sides probably exaggerate the figures.

> The question should be whether the sanctions have any impact on Russia's war economy, which they do not

Ruble is below a single penny.

Interest rates are at 21%, highest since 2003.

Inflation is out of control.

> they make Russia more independent and strengthen Russian ties with China and India.

ah, so that's why Putin went to North Korea to beg for troops and ammunition?

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3. thalsand ◴[20 Nov 24 20:12 UTC] No.42197660[source]▶
According to the IWF, 2024 inflation is 7.9% and GDP growth 3.6%:

https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/RUS

Germany has 2.4% inflation and 0% growth:

https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/DEU

I do not believe the German inflation numbers. Health care got 30% more expensive with more hikes coming, rents are exploding, groceries are 20% higher since 2022.