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redleggedfrog ◴[] No.42188611[source]
I've gone through times when management would treat estimates as deadlines, and were deaf to any sort of reason about why it could be otherwise, like the usual thing of them changing the specification repeatedly.

So when those times have occurred I've (we've more accurately) adopted what I refer to the "deer in the headlights" response to just about anything non-trivial. "Hoo boy, that could be doozy. I think someone on the team needs to take an hour or so and figure out what this is really going to take." Then you'll get asked to "ballpark it" because that's what managers do, and they get a number that makes them rise up in their chair, and yes, that is the number they remember. And then you do your hour of due diligence, and try your best not to actually give any other number than the ballpark at any time, and then you get it done "ahead of time" and look good.

Now, I've had good managers who totally didn't need this strategy, and I loved 'em to death. But for the other numbnuts who can't be bothered to learn their career skills, they get the whites of my eyes.

Also, just made meetings a lot more fun.

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1. skeeter2020 ◴[] No.42194310[source]
if you need to deal with this, you must present estimates as ranges or distributions. Management needs a value for both concrete, legit purposes like budgets and also for (still legitimate) psychological reasons like building comfort that they know what's going on and they are in control. As you mention, people will anchor on a number and that in a nutshell is how an estimate becomes a deadline. Planning and execution will refine the value right up to the point you ship with a very accurate estimate of "how long do you think this will take?".