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Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times matching when they broke

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499 points perihelions | 13 comments | 20 Nov 24 06:56 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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mitjam ◴[20 Nov 24 11:52 UTC] No.42193017[source]▶
It was crossing right on time for the interruptions, a Russian officer was on board, it slowed down while crossing, no other ships were slowing down in that area during that time (rulingnout headwinds) - it cannot get much clearer. China is now participating in hybrid warfare against Europe (unless they present stronger evidence against this assumption)
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greener_grass ◴[20 Nov 24 12:13 UTC] No.42193187[source]▶
So if Trump is against China, and China aligns with Russia, will Trump then support Ukraine? Interesting (and choppy) times ahead.
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1. duxup ◴[20 Nov 24 12:28 UTC] No.42193323[source]▶
Trump didn’t do anything with regards to China the first time around. I think there’s reason to doubt he is opposed to China in any significant way.
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2. lysace ◴[20 Nov 24 15:14 UTC] No.42194575[source]▶
He did impose tariffs on imports from China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93United_States_tr...

China–United States trade war

An economic conflict between China and the United States has been ongoing since January 2018, when U.S. President Donald Trump began setting tariffs and other trade barriers on China with the goal of forcing it to make changes to what the U.S. says are longstanding unfair trade practices and intellectual property theft.

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3. underseacables ◴[20 Nov 24 15:16 UTC] No.42194603[source]▶
In his first administration he engaged directly with North Korea which has been widely regarded as a Chinese puppet state. The last thing China wants, in my opinion, is a united and free Korea.
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4. duxup ◴[20 Nov 24 15:18 UTC] No.42194611[source]▶
He engaged with North Korea almost as an admirer and their leadership is close to China / Russia.

I'm not sure that means much as far as China goes....

5. duxup ◴[20 Nov 24 15:22 UTC] No.42194656[source]▶
That reads like token efforts and then he just moved on ... quit on the whole thing.
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6. lysace ◴[20 Nov 24 15:37 UTC] No.42194824{3}[source]▶
By late 2019, the United States had imposed approximately US$350 billion in tariffs on Chinese imports, while China had imposed approximately US$100 billion on US exports.

Then the Biden admin happened.

The Joe Biden administration kept the tariffs in place and added additional levies on Chinese goods such as electric vehicles and solar panels. In 2024, the Trump presidential campaign proposed a 60 percent tariff on Chinese goods.

It will be interesting to see what happens. 60% all at once would be too disruptive, I think.

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7. dole ◴[20 Nov 24 16:00 UTC] No.42195136[source]▶
Although China's been taking over the SCS, I haven't seen many open hostilities between South Korea and China covered in western news media, almost like SK ignores China's activities for the most part. I don't think there's any chance of a reunified Korea under the Kim dynasty or within 10 years.

edit: forgot to shoutout above's username

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8. throwawaymaths ◴[20 Nov 24 16:03 UTC] No.42195194{4}[source]▶
Well Biden put Catherine Tai in as the chief trade negotiator, who has been hard on China. Tariffs were expanded. And the de minimis exemption was rescinded in august.

So hardly "nothing further".

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9. fakedang ◴[20 Nov 24 16:07 UTC] No.42195250{3}[source]▶
Considering a significant bunch of Korean companies have production facilities in China, I'd say the relationship is more amiable than say the Japan-China one. Both were aligned in protesting the release of Fukushima water into the ocean for example.
10. lysace ◴[20 Nov 24 16:08 UTC] No.42195269{5}[source]▶
Sorry - just edited away the "nothing further" part as it was incorrect - a minute before reading your comment.
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11. duxup ◴[20 Nov 24 16:31 UTC] No.42195563{4}[source]▶
Trade conflicts all seem like a test of wills.

But if you're not testing, you're not doing anything.

12. anon84873628 ◴[20 Nov 24 20:54 UTC] No.42198012[source]▶
Let's not forget pulling out of the TPP, which likely empowered China.

https://www.cato.org/blog/5-years-later-united-states-still-...

13. throwawaymaths ◴[21 Nov 24 00:39 UTC] No.42199795{6}[source]▶
No worries! Thanks for the correction