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Let's Encrypt is 10 years old now

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489 points gslin | 2 comments | 20 Nov 24 06:13 UTC | HN request time: 0.51s | source
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pests ◴[20 Nov 24 07:45 UTC] No.42191619[source]▶
It feels like just yesterday I was paying for certs, or worst, just running without.

Can't believe its been ten years.

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ozim ◴[20 Nov 24 07:52 UTC] No.42191666[source]▶
Can’t believe there are still anti TLS weirdos.
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Pannoniae ◴[20 Nov 24 08:39 UTC] No.42191893[source]▶
TLS is not panacea and it's not universally positive. Here are some arguments against it for balance.

TLS is fairly computationally intensive - sure, not a big deal now because everyone is using superfast devices but try browsing the internet with a Pentium 4 or something. You won't be able to because there is no AES instruction set support accelerating the keyshake so it's hilariously slow.

It also encourages memoryholing old websites which aren't maintained - priceless knowledge is often lost because websites go down because no one is maintaining them. On my hard drive, I have a fair amount of stuff which I'm reasonably confident doesn't exist anywhere on the Internet anymore.... if my drives fail, that knowledge will be lost forever.

It is also a very centralised model - if I want to host a website, why do third parties need to issue a certificate for it just so people can connect to it?

It also discourages naive experimentation - sure, if you know how, you can MitM your own connection but for the not very technical but curious user, that's probably an insurmountable roadblock.

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MrGreenTea ◴[20 Nov 24 08:47 UTC] No.42191942[source]▶
Regarding the stuff you safe guard: what are your reasons for not sharing them somehow to prevent that loss when (not if) your drive fails?
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Pannoniae ◴[20 Nov 24 08:50 UTC] No.42191958[source]▶
I mean, I do! The music I have I put on Soulseek, although the more obscure stuff hasn't been downloaded yet. I also have fairly old video game mods - I don't even know where to share them or if anyone would be interested at all.
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1. account42 ◴[20 Nov 24 10:56 UTC] No.42192699[source]▶
You could try to upload them to modding sites (preferrably not onces with a longin requirement for downloading) if you don't want to host them yourself. That can be either general modding archives or game-specific community sites - the latter are smaller but more likely to be interested in older mods. Make sure that whatever host you use can be crawled by the internet archive.

Interest is probably going to be low but not zero - I often play games long after they have been released and sometimes intentionally using older versions that are no longer supported by current mods.

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2. Pannoniae ◴[20 Nov 24 12:20 UTC] No.42193253[source]▶
You are entirely right - although I'd have to be careful with uploading it and where because on Steam Workshop, there's assholes who threaten to DMCA you without basis and there are similar problems on other sites too. But I'll look around :)