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nabla9 ◴[] No.42191758[source]
October 2023 there was similar incident where Chinese cargo ship cut Balticonnector cable and EE-S1 cable. Chip named 'Newnew Polar Bear' under Chinese flag and Chinese company Hainan Xin Xin Yang Shipping Co, Ltd. (aka Torgmoll) with CEO named Yelena V. Maksimova, drags anchor in the seabed cutting cables. Chinese investigation claims storm was the reason, but there was no storm, just normal windy autumn weather. The ship just lowered one anchor and dragged it with engines running long time across the seabed until the anchor broke.

These things happen sometimes, ship anchors sometimes damage cables, but not this often and without serious problems in the ship. Russians are attempting plausible deniability.

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cabirum ◴[] No.42192160[source]
After the Nordstream pipeline attacked and destroyed, its reasonable to expect shortened lifetimes for undersea cables and sattelites.
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trhway ◴[] No.42192401[source]
it sounds like you've probably never seen this - tanker Minerva Julie (belonging to Putin's friends) traveling through the Baltic Sea suddenly decided to hang around for a week right at the same place where couple weeks later Nord Stream exploded:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/16/23/68797949-11868975...

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1. Lichtso ◴[] No.42192505[source]
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/world/europe/nord-stream-...
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2. PittleyDunkin ◴[] No.42194479[source]
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-navy-was-at-...
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3. mcphage ◴[] No.42194983[source]
I think it's pretty clear that the NordStream explosion was a joint US-Russia-Ukraine operation.
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4. PittleyDunkin ◴[] No.42195471{3}[source]
Hell, throw sweden in there too: https://omni.se/marinen-pa-plats-dagarna-fore-explosionerna/...
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5. secondcoming ◴[] No.42196113{4}[source]
Nope, it was definitely Poland trying to maximise on their gas connection to Norway.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe

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6. mmooss ◴[] No.42196696{3}[source]
Where is evidence that the US and Russia were involved?
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7. oneshtein ◴[] No.42196852{4}[source]
> it sounds like you've probably never seen this - tanker Minerva Julie (belonging to Putin's friends) traveling through the Baltic Sea suddenly decided to hang around for a week right at the same place where couple weeks later Nord Stream exploded: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/16/23/68797949-11868975...
8. JacobThreeThree ◴[] No.42196912{3}[source]
Clearly NordStream was destroyed in a drunken escapade on a rented yacht.

https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/nord-stream-pipeline-explos...

9. mcphage ◴[] No.42197704{4}[source]
Just look upthread from my comment.
10. credit_guy ◴[] No.42197871{3}[source]
And Soros was the mastermind.
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11. valval ◴[] No.42198410{3}[source]
A common goal seems to unite people of all nationalities.
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12. jeltz ◴[] No.42198453{5}[source]
It was clearly Norway trying to sell more gas to Poland.
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13. burnt-resistor ◴[] No.42198860{4}[source]
I'm waiting for Nazis and Jews to be blamed because Godwin's law after all.

The US destroyed the Nordstream pipeline for certain and Sy Hersh has the evidence.

It is more than probable that this incident indicates possible collusion between the Chinese and Russian governments to sabotage European interests. The simplest fix is for Sweden and Denmark to ban Chinese and Russian ships from their territorial waters until they deliver accountable assurances that this sort of behavior will not happen again. Until then, they must be stopped and European countries must play hardball because that's the only language these criminals understand.

14. mcphage ◴[] No.42199211{6}[source]
…wait a second, didn’t Agatha Christie write a book about this?!
15. mcphage ◴[] No.42199215{4}[source]
It’s like the UN of explosions!
16. usrusr ◴[] No.42199858{3}[source]
Not sure about joint, might have been half a dozen sides all independently trying to blow it up at the same time. Only way to settle it will be elevating nordstream blowup to an Olympic competition. Will it be summer Olympics (because water) or winter Olympics (because gas supply is so much more exciting in winter)?
17. PittleyDunkin ◴[] No.42200746{4}[source]
I sense someone hasn't actually read the thread they're replying to.