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Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times matching when they broke

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587 points perihelions | 8 comments | 20 Nov 24 06:56 UTC | HN request time: 1.23s | source | bottom
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dfadsadsf ◴[20 Nov 24 09:31 UTC] No.42192181[source]▶
It could be false flag operation to create pretext for NATO/EU to block shipping to Russian ports in Baltic Sea.

Similar to Nordstream destruction in 2022 it could have been either Ukrainians or CIA/NSA. This could be last attempt by current US administration elements to create leverage for the Ukraine before negotiations start.

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1. mnky9800n ◴[20 Nov 24 09:52 UTC] No.42192296[source]▶
what possible reason would nato need to blockade russian ports that doesnt already exist?
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2. maxglute ◴[20 Nov 24 10:39 UTC] No.42192609[source]▶
Blockade is legal act of war. RU at war with UKR, not NATO, and vice versa. Hence NATO would need casus belli of RU attacking NATO or NATO owned infra to declare blockade (read: declare war on RU).
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3. preisschild ◴[20 Nov 24 12:03 UTC] No.42193122[source]▶
Russia is already assassinating and sabotaging in NATO countries, which are legal acts of war too.
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4. kryptiskt ◴[20 Nov 24 18:34 UTC] No.42196825[source]▶
Russia isn't at war with Ukraine, it's a special military operation. Declaring a little exclusion zone outside all their ports for live-fire naval exercises isn't an act of war either. It'll be temporary, they'll be over by 2028, honest.
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5. maxglute ◴[20 Nov 24 23:12 UTC] No.42199119{3}[source]▶
RU's permenant representative notified UN on day of "special military operation" that actions were in accordance with art51 (UN Doc. S/2022/154), i.e. regardless of however media is labelling war at propaganda level, RU specificly using art51 for justification.
6. maxglute ◴[20 Nov 24 23:15 UTC] No.42199136{3}[source]▶
They're more grey-zone, since many countries do low level hostilities below threshold of war, which is different end of spectrum than blockade that's closer to unambiguous open warfare.
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7. mnky9800n ◴[21 Nov 24 08:13 UTC] No.42202173{3}[source]▶
think of being kura-murza or yashin, both in jail for being political dissidents, only to find our you are being exchanged evil people you are fighting against.
8. mnky9800n ◴[26 Nov 24 11:02 UTC] No.42244601{4}[source]▶
Why is a state killing someone located on foreign lands for political reasons not defined as an act of war?