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Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times matching when they broke

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499 points perihelions | 8 comments | 20 Nov 24 06:56 UTC | HN request time: 0.235s | source | bottom
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nabla9 ◴[20 Nov 24 08:15 UTC] No.42191758[source]▶
October 2023 there was similar incident where Chinese cargo ship cut Balticonnector cable and EE-S1 cable. Chip named 'Newnew Polar Bear' under Chinese flag and Chinese company Hainan Xin Xin Yang Shipping Co, Ltd. (aka Torgmoll) with CEO named Yelena V. Maksimova, drags anchor in the seabed cutting cables. Chinese investigation claims storm was the reason, but there was no storm, just normal windy autumn weather. The ship just lowered one anchor and dragged it with engines running long time across the seabed until the anchor broke.

These things happen sometimes, ship anchors sometimes damage cables, but not this often and without serious problems in the ship. Russians are attempting plausible deniability.

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1. aurareturn ◴[20 Nov 24 08:36 UTC] No.42191875[source]▶
Given that ships often cut undersea internet cables and China has the biggest export economy, doesn't it make sense that the most likely country to accidentally cut an internet cable would be a Chinese trade ship?

On average, it seems like undersea internet cables break 200+ times per year. For example, Vietnam's internet cables break on average 10 times per year.

What would be the motivation for a Chinese trade ship to deliberately cut an internet cable? It has next to no impact on internet communication and only serves to annoy a small amount of people for a short period of time. In addition, China and Europe are trying to have a better relationship in general so it doesn't make sense for the Chinese government to order this.

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2. raverbashing ◴[20 Nov 24 08:46 UTC] No.42191937[source]▶
> What would be the motivation for a Chinese trade ship to deliberately cut an internet cable?

The most charitable reason is that they don't give a fluck. Same reason why their rocket boosters just fall wherever they fall, population center or not

Edit: https://x.com/Tendar/status/1859147985424196010

> The skipper of the Chinese ship is a Russian national and the route leads from Ust-Luga (Russia) to Port Said (Egypt).

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3. aurareturn ◴[20 Nov 24 08:51 UTC] No.42191963[source]▶
Is there any data on which country's ships cut the most internet cables?

I think we need a total ships sailing for country / cuts.

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4. Hamuko ◴[20 Nov 24 08:52 UTC] No.42191966[source]▶
>What would be the motivation for a Chinese trade ship to deliberately cut an internet cable?

Money. Russia is reportedly bribing people into doing sabotage in western nations.

There's also reports that Yi Peng 3 is captained by a Russian national, which would also be another reason for a Chinese trade ship to conduct sabotage operations beneficial to Russia.

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6. rixrax ◴[20 Nov 24 10:01 UTC] No.42192363[source]▶
At the Baltic Sea the cables and such break mostly because of one reason only: russia. [0]

[0] https://www.csce.gov/briefings/russias-genocide-in-ukraine/

7. miningape ◴[20 Nov 24 10:34 UTC] No.42192573{3}[source]▶
This would be an interesting project for someone to work on, I wonder if there's a place where all the internet cable outages + reasons are available?
8. brazzy ◴[20 Nov 24 12:12 UTC] No.42193180[source]▶
I could believe that cutting one cable was an accident. But two, by the same ship, 60 miles apart?

Absolutely no way this wasn't intentional.