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Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times matching when they broke

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499 points perihelions | 9 comments | 20 Nov 24 06:56 UTC | HN request time: 0.208s | source | bottom
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nabla9 ◴[20 Nov 24 08:15 UTC] No.42191758[source]▶
October 2023 there was similar incident where Chinese cargo ship cut Balticonnector cable and EE-S1 cable. Chip named 'Newnew Polar Bear' under Chinese flag and Chinese company Hainan Xin Xin Yang Shipping Co, Ltd. (aka Torgmoll) with CEO named Yelena V. Maksimova, drags anchor in the seabed cutting cables. Chinese investigation claims storm was the reason, but there was no storm, just normal windy autumn weather. The ship just lowered one anchor and dragged it with engines running long time across the seabed until the anchor broke.

These things happen sometimes, ship anchors sometimes damage cables, but not this often and without serious problems in the ship. Russians are attempting plausible deniability.

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1. brazzy ◴[20 Nov 24 08:24 UTC] No.42191808[source]▶
So according to the Bluesky thread, the ship was captained by a Russian citizen. One has to wonder whether this was done with the approval of the Chinese government, or whether the ship was just chosen by opportunity (which seems possible given that China is the second most common merchant flag). Or whether implicating China was even an explicit goal.
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2. whizzter ◴[20 Nov 24 09:09 UTC] No.42192056[source]▶
Russian captain, how does the ownership history of the ship look? Could be some sanction evading ship that was owned by Russian interests anyhow.
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3. netsharc ◴[20 Nov 24 09:18 UTC] No.42192107[source]▶
For an analogy, it seems like a scrappy preteen throwing around his big brother's name, knowing that if he gets into trouble, big brother will intervene...

(i.e. the European countries might be more wary about boarding a Chinese ship compared to a Russian ship, because escalating against China is scarier...).

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4. _djo_ ◴[20 Nov 24 09:52 UTC] No.42192292[source]▶
Indeed. The best way to understand Russia's approach to foreign policy is that it's an extension of its mafia state-derived domestic policy, where there are no true allies and anyone brought into the circle is tainted through compromising actions to ensure they stay loyal to you.

It's not dissimilar to the way criminal gangs will ensure that they have dirt on anyone joining or intentionally implicate others in order to ensure compliance.

5. mytailorisrich ◴[20 Nov 24 10:47 UTC] No.42192653[source]▶
China did not want the war in Ukraine, which has created serious problems for them including for Belt and Road. So behing closed doors China must be passed off but Russia is important to them and they can't let them collapse.

Of course Putin knows this hence him somewhat taking the p.

6. graemep ◴[20 Nov 24 10:55 UTC] No.42192694[source]▶
I think China stands to gain from escalation of the war so its possible they approved. It makes Russia weaker and more dependant on them, distracts the US from the Pacific, and weakens Europe in many ways.

Similar to both Russia and China gaining from war and disruption in the Middle East.

There are many possibilities here.

7. pantalaimon ◴[20 Nov 24 12:40 UTC] No.42193421[source]▶
It was a Russian ship until a month ago
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8. jeroenhd ◴[20 Nov 24 15:27 UTC] No.42194704{3}[source]▶
Do you have a source for that? According to https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9224984 it's been registered as Chinese since 2016.

Doesn't mean its current Russian captain is serving Chinese interests, of course, but at least it seems to be Chinese owned.

9. lukan ◴[20 Nov 24 17:35 UTC] No.42196308[source]▶
I doubt China will be happy, if Russia staged chinese support. But rumors have it, that the North Korean troop support for the war in Ukraine also came out of the blue for China, so Putin might make a risky gamble here, but I doubt he dares it. If China would seriously drop support for Russia, they would be srewed.