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quantadev ◴[] No.42190669[source]
I'm not sure I believe this coin flip bias, but I would if lots of other researchers can reproduce it.

If indeed it's happening, the only explanation can be something to do with very deep Quantum Mechanics including multiverse theory, where we're simply "more likely" to be in a universe where the coin ends where it starts. (But honestly it seems like it would take trillions of flips to detect, just as a hunch) So that would make this experiment, believe it or not, akin to the infamous Slit-Experiment in Particle Physics, where multiverses are one way that's theorized as an explanation. That is, we're sort of in "all universes" as s superposition until something interacts in a way forcing us into ONE universe. (i.e. wave collapse)

Along the same multiverse theme, I also have this other wild conjecture (feel free to ridicule it!) which is that AI LLM (Large Language Models) are "tending towards intelligence" during training because at each quantum collapse (of which Model Training has astronomically high numbers, with powerful computer data centers running for months) we're nudged just slightly more probabilistically into a universe where LLMs are "smart" as compared to "dumb", and so when you multiply it all up over months of churning, that puts us into a universe with dramatically smarter AI, because of the sheer number of computations, adding all the probabilities. I realize the training of AI is "deterministic" but nonetheless only quantum probabilities "determine" which universe we collapse into at each QM decoherence. So you can ask WHY is there this 'nudge' towards universes with smart LLMs? Probably because in all future universes we only exist because LLMs save us, or help us in some way, so other timelines/universes are "less" likely.

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1. left-struck ◴[] No.42190739[source]
>If indeed it's happening, the only explanation can be something to do with very deep Quantum Mechanics including multiverse theory

Why would that be the only explanation? that seems like very low down on a long list of possible explanations.

I didn’t read the paper but the author was discussing how some people impart precession onto the coin which is a likely explanation for causing a bias.

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2. teaearlgraycold ◴[] No.42190882[source]
Any relatively new field of physics gets the same treatment as religion.
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3. quantadev ◴[] No.42190994[source]
The fact that some people cause it and some people don't (the coin flip bias) can have an explanation something like having to do with their impact on the causality chain if our universe/timeline. It could be anything from which one of them is older, to which one of them has a future offspring that does something big that has a big impact on the universe (in terms of Butterfly Effect kind of knock-on effects).

But I just don't see a person being able to flip accurately enough cause this. No way. But I'm just playing along here. I don't truly believe this experiment is anything but either a hoax, or mistake.

4. quantadev ◴[] No.42191013[source]
Now that so many physicists and legitimate experts (non-quacks) believe in Simulation Theory, we've sort of "merged" physics and Religion. The general agreed upon definition of God is "whatever thing is simulating the universe". Of course all the Religious dogma and mythology stories are things that most of them don't believe.