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Hey fellow HN enthusiasts!

I'm looking to expand my Bluesky feed with accounts that share interesting, tech-related content, similar to what we discuss here on HN.

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Aachen ◴[] No.42189950[source]
I see a lot of people on Mastodon posting jokes about Twitter users moving to another centralised and venture capital-backed platform, like that "this time it will be different for sure!". I haven't read up on it myself so don't know what to think. Can someone burst my bubble on this?

Edit: saw a lot of valid responses, thanks! My question is answered and I might sign up on bsky as well if I get bored on Mastodon or want to connect with someone there :)

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1. griomnib ◴[] No.42190092[source]
I think it’s mistaken. You can run your own bluesky server, I’m meaning to get around to it but seems fairly straight forward:

https://atproto.com/guides/self-hosting

When I tried to install mastodon it downloaded literally hundreds of random dependencies, there was no way I could verify the security of it. Real shitshow imho.

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2. Aachen ◴[] No.42190157[source]
What I hear is that there was an outage that took all of bsky down, as well as centralised moderation. Correct me if I'm wrong, or if it's still in the works, but it sounds like valid criticism when people say that demonstrates it functions as a centralised platform

Haven't tried self-hosting Mastodon since I was looking for a social platform and not a new hobby. There's lots of hosters to choose from though, including the usual suspects like German Tchncs and French La Quadrature du Net (they also host other alternatives to big tech platforms like peertube)

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3. griomnib ◴[] No.42190183[source]
Honestly I found starting my own mastodon server less work than trying to figure which of somebody else’s servers to use.

I’m not sure as to the future of bluesky, but they are committed to having a distributed network, and have been before they even launched.

I think claims to the contrary are sour grapes.

4. g-b-r ◴[] No.42190249[source]
https://mastodon.social/@_elena/113366551082791729
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5. griomnib ◴[] No.42190338[source]
The full thread has a lot of speculation without basis in fact (eg why a given VC decided to invest in bsky), and the primary technical argument involves some theoretical issues vis-a-vis rebuilding the network if 25%+ of users decide to migrate out.

I don’t put that much stock in such critiques when a project is still evolving, learning lessons, and most importantly growing.

Most of the complaints coming from the mastodon crowd feel more like emacs vs vim “debates” of yesteryear.

6. steveklabnik ◴[] No.42195650[source]
> What I hear is that there was an outage that took all of bsky down, as well as centralised moderation.

"all of" is accurate only in the sense that there's one major appview right now, but it wouldn't take down all of the independent PDS hosts. Anyone using an alternative appview wouldn't have been affected.

There is centralized moderation for the bluesky application, but not at the protocol level.

7. wannacboatmovie ◴[] No.42198078[source]
> it downloaded literally hundreds of random dependencies, there was no way I could verify the security of it.

You just described any modern shitware that uses npm.