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28 points charliebwrites | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source

The majority of jobs on LinkedIn right now seem to be reposts of jobs from a month or two ago.

You can see from the application data that each role that's been reposted already has hundreds of applicants, which implies that it did last month as well.

Why would you repost a role vs just going through the 1000 applications you received last time?

What is the reasoning there?

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gregjor ◴[] No.42178273[source]
Companies and the recruiters who work for them post ghost jobs for various reasons. You can find plenty of writing and discussion about it on HN, Reddit, YouTube, even mainstream media. Look at the Wikipedia entry for "ghost job."

Not really a new practice, but having job postings and job searching online makes it more obvious. Running ads for jobs the employer may not fill has few downsides and doesn't cost much.

Digging through job postings and applying to them has turned into a numbers game, and an arms race of automation and now AI tools. I suggest a more effective job hunting strategy, because worrying about ghost job postings just wastes your time if you intend to find a job.

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JohnFen ◴[] No.42184613[source]
> Digging through job postings and applying to them has turned into a numbers game

It's always been a numbers game, at least over the course of my career.

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gregjor ◴[] No.42185754[source]
I learned to make it about people a long time ago. In 40+ years I have applied for jobs through ads maybe two times. Every other job I've had came through friends, former colleagues, word of mouth and referrals. I haven't updated my résumé or looked at a job board in decades.

As a freelancer I do get gigs through an agency, but even that works mainly by word of mouth. I never apply or do anything resembling an interview for those jobs. I keep my freelance customers for a long time -- five years or longer -- so I don't have to churn for new projects all the time. Even a fairly small company can keep a few programmers and system admins busy.

I understand that people early in their career don't have a lot of professional contacts, and that makes it hard to find a job. In that situation perhaps it makes sense to apply for a lot of jobs, but I think targeting a few specific companies and cultivating relationships will get better results, even for someone fresh out of school or laid off from their first job. A person who went to university should have quite a few contacts from school. A person who worked even for a few months has colleagues from that job. When someone posts that they have worked in the business for a while but have no professional network I wonder how that could happen -- take off the headphones, stop shunning every meeting and social interaction, meet more people, and not just other programmers/tech people.

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1. JohnFen ◴[] No.42187996[source]
We are much the same. When I'm job hunting, I'm not paying attention to ads, job boards, or similar. Never have. My career is fully mature enough that I have a rich professional network available.

But it's still a numbers game. All that changes is how big those numbers have to be. What I mean by that is when I'm looking for work, I'm not doing it one application at a time. I develop a list of the places that I think would be good, and apply to them all.