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plagiarist ◴[] No.42168920[source]
It should really not be possible for a single anonymous phone call to dispatch a heavily armed response team to break down someone's door.

Aside from that, people who do so are despicable. 20 years is a light sentence. Taking money to put people in situations that could easily become deadly.

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bigiain ◴[] No.42169045[source]
It wouldn't be a problem, if the "heavily armed response team" was properly held to account when they killed innocent people.

Cops kill people on the basis of ludicrous anonymous phone call because they know they'll get away with it when it turns out to be false.

And they like it that way.

There needs to be a few very public cases of entire SWAT teams getting 20 year sentences.

ACAB

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Loughla ◴[] No.42169199[source]
While the acab is kind of rough, I'm absolutely with you on police accountability.

If there was open and honest accountability, I don't think people would have as many problems with the police.

The issue is that police operate in extremely high pressure novel situations all the time. Training only goes so far. After that, you're investigating mistakes versus violent intent.

I'm not sure that's easy to do, and I'm certain the public would never accept the finding that a police officer made an honest mistake, and won't be punished, but somebody got killed.

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rendall ◴[] No.42172466[source]
> The issue is that police operate in extremely high pressure novel situations all the time.

In the US, police officer does not even rise to top 10 most dangerous jobs. Groundskeeper is a more dangerous job than being a cop.

The lack of training and toxic culture of policing is far more dangerous to cops than criminals are. The average US citizen simply does not, and should not, trust the average cop.

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slothtrop ◴[] No.42173290[source]
Danger =/= high stress/pressure situations
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rendall ◴[] No.42173698[source]
Even if that were true, and it's not, it would be mitigated by better training and careful psychological filtering.
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slothtrop ◴[] No.42174068{3}[source]
> and it's not

At least try to be persuasive. There are a myriad of ways that jobs can be stressful without endangering your life, that should not be difficult for you to imagine. Shift work, demands for quotas and metrics (sales people can tell you this), dealing with violent and erratic individuals in the public with sometimes insufficient support, etc.

Correctional Officers face similar circumstances and have a life expectancy of 58-59 years old. High divorce rate too, but people want to content themselves with the truism that "only bad people work these jobs", with no consideration for environmental effects. The divorce rate is higher among medical assistants and some skilled trades, for reasons that can just as easily apply: long hours, on-call, fatigue, etc.

> it would be mitigated by better training and careful psychological filtering.

Only on the conceit that any and all stress is imposed by lack of training and bad psychology.

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rendall ◴[] No.42180906{4}[source]
You're not demanding evidence that the job of police officer is high stress. Interesting, that bias. On what basis do you support that claim?
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1. slothtrop ◴[] No.42187542{5}[source]
All of which would be self-reported and not persuade you. But behaviors that correlate with stress (like I provided) are present.