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Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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577 points mooreds | 5 comments | 18 Nov 24 14:31 UTC | HN request time: 0.004s | source
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keskival ◴[18 Nov 24 22:53 UTC] No.42178002[source]▶
And also the cable between Lithuania and Sweden:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/18/telecoms-cable...

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threeseed ◴[19 Nov 24 01:32 UTC] No.42179277[source]▶
And also Ireland escorted a Russian spy ship away from their cables:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/16/russian-spy-sh...

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carabiner ◴[19 Nov 24 05:50 UTC] No.42180401[source]▶
A disruption in communications can mean only one thing: invasion.
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trhway ◴[19 Nov 24 06:08 UTC] No.42180465[source]▶
yes. What Russia does currently is probing and testing - what it takes to disrupt all the necessary cables simultaneously to create communication breakdown and a lot of chaos, what resources and time it takes to repair (and thus planning the options on blocking those repair resources, etc.) It takes tanks half-a-day to cross the Baltic states to reach the sea. That is the time Russia wants to buy. Once Russian forces are already in Riga, Tallinn, Vilnus, the NATO will have a decision to make on whether to bomb the Russian forces already placed by that time among the Baltic states population.
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nkrisc ◴[19 Nov 24 10:23 UTC] No.42181892[source]▶
This would be more concerning if Russia had any tanks left.

Are you suggesting Russia has a full invasion force they’re not using in Ukraine? Or to liberate their own occupied territory?

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oneshtein ◴[19 Nov 24 11:58 UTC] No.42182489[source]▶
RF refurbishes about 1300 tanks a year. It's more than enough to conquer part of Europe and then exchange it for Ukraine.
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1. nkrisc ◴[19 Nov 24 15:25 UTC] No.42184478[source]▶
What non-NATO European country are they going to invade (and hold!) as a bargaining chip?

Any how many of those tanks go straight to Ukraine? Do you think Russia can afford to stockpile tanks (and everything else necessary) for several years for an invasion of Europe while simultaneously engaged in the their current war in Ukraine?

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2. oneshtein ◴[19 Nov 24 19:16 UTC] No.42187044[source]▶
Slovakia or Hungary, for example.
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3. coffeebeqn ◴[19 Nov 24 21:54 UTC] No.42188508[source]▶
They are both in NATO
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4. oneshtein ◴[20 Nov 24 06:37 UTC] No.42191317{3}[source]▶
This doesn't mean that they will invoke Article 5.

Multiple NATO countries should invoke Article 4 of NATO already, but they don't.

5. pvaldes ◴[20 Nov 24 21:41 UTC] No.42198398[source]▶
They would not need a direct attack. Orban talked about allowing free access to any Russian citizen towards Hungary. We have seen this film yet and is called "green men 2".