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mvkel ◴[] No.42175730[source]
> time to run it after not touching it for 4 years

> Two hours of my life gone...

Two hours of work after 4 years sounds ... perfectly acceptable?

And it would have run perfectly right away if the node version was specified, so a good learning, too

This feels like making a mountain out of a mole hill

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ivan_gammel ◴[] No.42183093[source]
I still can open my decade-old Java projects, run build with modern Maven/JDK and get working code - in a few minutes. Two hours of dancing with a drum doesn’t feel acceptable to me.
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demosthanos ◴[] No.42183272[source]
Maven, maybe, but Gradle absolutely not. If you don't have the exact version of Gradle that you used before, you're in for the same kind of misery documented above, with the same end state: just stick to the old version and deal with the upgrade later.
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ivan_gammel ◴[] No.42183488[source]
Well, I‘m not talking about Gradle, right? Sometimes conservative choice is what gets the job done.
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lowboy ◴[] No.42183997[source]
Well, the article is about npm, a package manager for node. Vendoring dependencies into source is a choice, albeit one that I don't often reach for.
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cesarb ◴[] No.42184056[source]
> Well, the article is about npm, a package manager for node.

And Maven is a package manager for Java. The main difference IMO? The usual way to do things in Maven is to always use exact versions for the dependencies. When I specify I want some dependency at version 1.2.3, Maven will use version 1.2.3 of that dependency even if 1.2.4 or later already exists.

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1. ivan_gammel ◴[] No.42184253[source]
Maven is also stable and requires only JDK to run. You can unzip it to desired location and add to PATH - it will be ready to go in a couple of minutes.

It will not build all old projects out of the box, of course. Specific versions of plugins may not be compatible with it or some dependencies may break on modern JDK. But chances of hitting this issue are much lower than in JS/NPM ecosystem.