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1. thrance ◴[] No.42182529[source]
But denial of evolution is linked to white supremacy. A rejection of the biological links between white people and colored people helps to justify discrimination based on skin color. And non-believers in evolution often share other backwards views.

As for the the bell curve, I'd encourage you to read her article first, befire forming an opinion from disingenuous caricature of what was said in it. She doesn't deny the usefulness of the concept, just points to some harmful and pseudoscientific ways it is/was used. Think phrenology for example.

Reason is a heavily biased right-wing website, as you can see on the articles on the front page. This doesn't necessarily invalidate everything coming from them, but take it with a grain of salt at least, and go form your own opinion based on her articles, instead of the mockery they wrote to make a point about "the woke political agenda controlling academia".

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2. Clubber ◴[] No.42183136[source]
I've always understood denial of evolution's primary reason is that it contradicts scripture. I've never heard it associated with white supremacy until today.

>But denial of evolution is linked to white supremacy. A rejection of the biological links between white people and colored people helps to justify discrimination based on skin color. And non-believers in evolution often share other backwards views.

How do you know this?

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3. llm_trw ◴[] No.42183193[source]
>But denial of evolution is linked to white supremacy.

Acceptance of evolution also leads to white supremacy. One only need to read what Victorian Eugenicists had to say about colored people.

So if both accepting and rejecting evolution are linked to white supremacy it stands to reason that neither is the causal factor.

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4. thrance ◴[] No.42183840[source]
Of course they are white supremacists that believe in evolution...

Here is a big, international meta-analysis that finds a link between both views: https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fpspi0000391

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5. thrance ◴[] No.42183857[source]
Here is a link to an international meta-analysis that finds a link between disbelief in evolution and general bigotry: https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fpspi0000391

White supremacy, at least in the United States, finds many of its members (not all, of course) in evangelical circles.

6. Levitz ◴[] No.42185624[source]
And the invention of the keyboard is linked to online bullying.

There is a point in which the relation is so far-fetched and non-causal that it doesn't make any sense to mention it, and the link between evolution denial and white supremacy absolutely crosses that line.

White supremacy is also linked to the sun rising up each morning, detergent and open borders. None of them relevant.

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7. thrance ◴[] No.42186664[source]
I'll give you the link I gave the other: https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fpspi0000391

This is a large meta-study finding a link between white supremacy and disbelief in evolution.

The link isn't hard to see either, white supremacists are primarily found in qanon and other right wing conspiracy bubbles. They are more susceptible to believe in bullshit than tolerant people, like creationism.

8. llm_trw ◴[] No.42188459{3}[source]
What an odd study to support the idea of white sumrpemacy when 2/3rds of the population sampled isn't Western or white according to white supremacists.
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9. pvaldes ◴[] No.42189075[source]
Both can be causes of an underlying problem, not necessarily origin and consequence.

Is not a surprise that stupid people is generally stupid in more than one field. Somebody believing white supremacy has a previous mental condition that makes him/her blind to obvious contradictions in that speech. Thus, will be probably less capable to grasp complex concepts like evolution (or will choose to ignore it by a different motivation, like greed).

10. thrance ◴[] No.42189848{4}[source]
White supremacy and other kinds of racisms. Non-whites can be racist too, you know?

I feel like I'm wasting my time. What do you want to convince me of? That disbelief in evolution is not correlated to white supremacy? What a weird hill to die on. Minds infected with weird ideas tend to believe in multiple ones at the same time, it's not hard to accept.

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11. llm_trw ◴[] No.42191048{5}[source]
>Minds infected with weird ideas tend to believe in multiple ones at the same time, it's not hard to accept.

Irony thy name is thrance.

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12. thrance ◴[] No.42192614{6}[source]
It's the name of a character in a book, it's got nothing to do with it. I'm cis.

You're insane, I gave you a giant study that proves my point, and you engage in baseless attack to refuse the outcome, are you a white supremacist?

I could also give you a meta-study that proves transition is the only real cure to gender dysphoria, but I'm afraid you're too far gone. Come back when you have decided to live in reality.