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Bootstrapped founder here.

I'm planning to build a SaaS product loosely in the B2B logistics space - it needs to be relatively low cost to build/maintain, look slick and be extensible.

It would be customer facing, meaning each customer would need a login/account (or perhaps many, if a whole team is using our product).

I've looked at Retool and it looks quite epic but it looks like it's designed primarily for internal apps.

Has anybody used, or attempted to use Retool for a production, user-facing app?

Would really appreciate advice, war stories or recommendations.

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hipadev23 ◴[] No.42180225[source]
Depends entirely on how much per-customer/seat you can charge. Retool is fairly expensive, but they've just recently started offering external user pricing. It's $7-10/user/mo and caps at $4250/mo at 500 users, at which point additional users are free. At 4,250 users you'd be paying $1/user/mo. They also have embedded/portal type solutions now, so your users won't know they're logging into Retool. I'm not sure if you could support a free-user tier without likely violating their TOS, though it does depend on what your SaaS offers. You can host public-facing no-login-required apps for free.

Downsides? The app overhead can be bulky. It's not something users are going to quickly open, look at some stats, and close imo. If your use-case is users logging-into the platform and likely keeping the dashboard/whatever open for hours or indefinitely? That's a better fit.

Their support team needs a lot of work. They generally are slow to respond and don't understand their own products or pricing. A lot of what should be simple questions end up taking multiple back and forth emails where you find yourself explaining the nature of your problem/question to the support person. It's extremely frustrating to the point I've thought about abandoning them over how incompetent support is. That said, the CEO is really responsive to direct emails...

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1. klabetron ◴[] No.42181263[source]
> Their support team needs a lot of work. They generally are slow to respond and don't understand their own products or pricing.

From my experience literally yesterday, they were pretty prompt. But we have a private shared Slack channel—something I suspect they’ll set up if you’ve got high user commitments.

(To the OP’s question, though: we’re not doing anything public facing.)

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2. hipadev23 ◴[] No.42183248[source]
That's good to hear. I'm stuck with the email based support and apparently the low-quality crew only (my spend is about $500/mo).