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Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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577 points mooreds | 4 comments | 18 Nov 24 14:31 UTC | HN request time: 1.374s | source
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keskival ◴[18 Nov 24 22:53 UTC] No.42178002[source]▶
And also the cable between Lithuania and Sweden:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/18/telecoms-cable...

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threeseed ◴[19 Nov 24 01:32 UTC] No.42179277[source]▶
And also Ireland escorted a Russian spy ship away from their cables:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/16/russian-spy-sh...

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carabiner ◴[19 Nov 24 05:50 UTC] No.42180401[source]▶
A disruption in communications can mean only one thing: invasion.
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trhway ◴[19 Nov 24 06:08 UTC] No.42180465[source]▶
yes. What Russia does currently is probing and testing - what it takes to disrupt all the necessary cables simultaneously to create communication breakdown and a lot of chaos, what resources and time it takes to repair (and thus planning the options on blocking those repair resources, etc.) It takes tanks half-a-day to cross the Baltic states to reach the sea. That is the time Russia wants to buy. Once Russian forces are already in Riga, Tallinn, Vilnus, the NATO will have a decision to make on whether to bomb the Russian forces already placed by that time among the Baltic states population.
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1. sekai ◴[19 Nov 24 08:11 UTC] No.42181022[source]▶
> It takes tanks half-a-day to cross the Baltic states to reach the sea

And how long does it take for the F35 to fly across all Baltic States? 30 minutes at max speed. Without air supremacy, Russia would be dead in the water.

> That is the time Russia wants to buy. Once Russian forces are already in Riga, Tallinn, Vilnus, the NATO will have a decision to make on whether to bomb the Russian forces already placed by that time among the Baltic states population.

If you think Poland and Finland would sit on their hands and do nothing, you're being naive.

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2. oneshtein ◴[19 Nov 24 12:04 UTC] No.42182528[source]▶
RF has no air supremacy in Ukraine, so they have high loses, but they advance anyway. Small or large losses will not stop an empire, except Imperial Japan maybe.
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3. coffeebeqn ◴[19 Nov 24 22:11 UTC] No.42188653[source]▶
Ukraines Air Force is tiny and poorly equipped. Compare it to just the Nordics for example who are soon on hundreds of F-35 and Gripen. Staging any mass movements against that kind of air support will be challenging.

Besides NATO already has a large land based army as well. US, Turkey, Poland , Finland all have large ground forces

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4. oneshtein ◴[20 Nov 24 06:36 UTC] No.42191313{3}[source]▶
As I said, RF has no air supremacy already. They have high loses because of that. They accept their losses and move forward.

Similar tactics was used by communists in Vietnam and Korea.