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GratiaTerra ◴[] No.42173899[source]
I took advantage of the IRA solar power and $7500 EV credit, now I have an off grid home all electric appliances and excess power for hot tubs and EV's. The Ford Lightning acts as a generator. This was the greatest most life changing and impactful legistlation ever: I've had $0 (ZERO!) in gasoline, LP, and electric utility bills since installation last year.
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asciimov ◴[] No.42174360[source]
It's too bad that the only people benefiting from all green power subsidies are the people that least need them.

We should be investing solar in lower income communities, as those people could really use cheaper utilities, and any saving they get would immediately go back into their communities.

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jebarker ◴[] No.42174541[source]
We need both. There's plenty of wealthy people that can afford to go solar and could arguably have a bigger environmental impact if they did since they often also have large homes, big cars etc. If they don't feel strongly about doing it for altruistic reasons then subsidies are a useful tool to get them to take the plunge. Without subsidies there's really no economic argument for them to do it since the break even times are long and they probably aren't too worried about utility costs.
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tuatoru ◴[] No.42174996[source]
> There's plenty of wealthy people that can afford to go solar ... subsidies are a useful tool to get them to take the plunge.

So you are in favour of taking taxes from the poor to give to the rich. Good to know.

Wealthy people's impact disproportionately comes from plane travel. That is highly polluting but nothing is being done about that.

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jebarker ◴[] No.42175444[source]
Wealthy people pay much more in taxes than poor people. One use of taxes I am in favor of is "nudges" to achieve desirable outcomes for all. This is an example of that.

Bringing up plane travel is "whataboutism".

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1. washadjeffmad ◴[] No.42180885[source]
True, but not universally. In cities, lower income people living in older buildings are a significantly larger source of tax revenue than corporate parks or the wealthy communities they subsidize. I spend less in sales tax shopping at Costco than someone who eats every meal from a corner store and overpays for singles of everything.

I don't even know what a soda or single roll of toilet tissue costs, but I'd probably be horrified by it because I can afford not to spend money.

The government gets my money on occasion, but they have a chunk of the nation on a subscription plan.