yes. What Russia does currently is probing and testing - what it takes to disrupt all the necessary cables simultaneously to create communication breakdown and a lot of chaos, what resources and time it takes to repair (and thus planning the options on blocking those repair resources, etc.) It takes tanks half-a-day to cross the Baltic states to reach the sea. That is the time Russia wants to buy. Once Russian forces are already in Riga, Tallinn, Vilnus, the NATO will have a decision to make on whether to bomb the Russian forces already placed by that time among the Baltic states population.

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avh02 ◴[19 Nov 24 07:33 UTC] No.42180860[source]▶

>>42180465 #

Oh no, if only radio/emergency broadcast television/satellite/alternative cable routes/contingency plans had been invented!

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1. trhway ◴[19 Nov 24 07:40 UTC] No.42180882[source]▶

>>42180860 #

We can look at October 7th in Israel how long, with all the communications and infrastructure working, it took to organize defense in a very technologically developed country which basically had been living in the state of war readiness. Now add broken significant communications, chaos of non-working banks/ATMs, power shut-offs, clogged highways, etc. (don't get me wrong - i'm not saying that Russia can do all that, i'm saying that Russia is actively working on those capabilities, and whether they achieve it to the needed extent is the key to how the events would go in the near future)

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2. cryptoegorophy ◴[19 Nov 24 10:49 UTC] No.42182050[source]▶

>>42180882 (TP) #

I still don’t get how Oct 7 was not an inside job. With mossad crabs everywhere how do you miss such a major plot to attack with so many actors involved?

3. stoperaticless ◴[19 Nov 24 10:53 UTC] No.42182077[source]▶

>>42180882 (TP) #

These broke cables have not affected daily lives (possibly ISPs had extra work though)

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4. nopakos ◴[19 Nov 24 11:20 UTC] No.42182250[source]▶

>>42182077 #

Hey! I woke up at 06:00 to check what was wrong with a service. It turned out, a server in Germany could not reach a server in Finland in the 20" timeout I had set.

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5. aerzen ◴[19 Nov 24 14:21 UTC] No.42183715[source]▶

>>42182077 #

How did you reach the conclusion it was not an inside job? Or an intentional israeli delay so the response was "justified"?

I'm not being snarky, but from what I gather, Isreal could have prevented that.

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6. avh02 ◴[19 Nov 24 17:07 UTC] No.42185689[source]▶

>>42180882 (TP) #

You're right, but I think there were a lot of other factors involved there unrelated to basic infrastructure. Not to get too in to politics but i think there was a lot of underestimation, dismissal of warning signals (focus was elsewhere, as you can see with how precise intelligence seems to be in Lebanon), and just bad timing for them. I don't think anyone living in Russia's shadow, seeing what is actively happening, will be that unprepared.

7. toast0 ◴[19 Nov 24 20:01 UTC] No.42187484{3}[source]▶

>>42182250 #

You set your timeout in inches? I thought you were all metric over tehre, except for socket drivers which are universally imperial :P

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8. nopakos ◴[19 Nov 24 21:40 UTC] No.42188390{4}[source]▶

>>42187484 #

Yes, although miles would be more appropriate! https://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html

9. stoperaticless ◴[19 Nov 24 21:40 UTC] No.42188391{3}[source]▶

>>42183715 #

What?

10. pvaldes ◴[20 Nov 24 21:45 UTC] No.42198444{4}[source]▶

>>42187484 #

Just for the record

20": English notation for twenty seconds

11. stoperaticless ◴[21 Nov 24 07:41 UTC] No.42202018[source]▶

>>42182077 #

Analysis regarding latencies and packet loss due to cut cables:

https://labs.ripe.net/author/emileaben/does-the-internet-rou...

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