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Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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577 points mooreds | 7 comments | 18 Nov 24 14:31 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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keskival ◴[18 Nov 24 22:53 UTC] No.42178002[source]▶
And also the cable between Lithuania and Sweden:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/18/telecoms-cable...

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threeseed ◴[19 Nov 24 01:32 UTC] No.42179277[source]▶
And also Ireland escorted a Russian spy ship away from their cables:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/16/russian-spy-sh...

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carabiner ◴[19 Nov 24 05:50 UTC] No.42180401[source]▶
A disruption in communications can mean only one thing: invasion.
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trhway ◴[19 Nov 24 06:08 UTC] No.42180465[source]▶
yes. What Russia does currently is probing and testing - what it takes to disrupt all the necessary cables simultaneously to create communication breakdown and a lot of chaos, what resources and time it takes to repair (and thus planning the options on blocking those repair resources, etc.) It takes tanks half-a-day to cross the Baltic states to reach the sea. That is the time Russia wants to buy. Once Russian forces are already in Riga, Tallinn, Vilnus, the NATO will have a decision to make on whether to bomb the Russian forces already placed by that time among the Baltic states population.
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1. chgs ◴[19 Nov 24 06:11 UTC] No.42180481[source]▶
Still waiting for Russian forces to occupy Kyiv
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2. trhway ◴[19 Nov 24 06:19 UTC] No.42180515[source]▶
I suggest you revisit the history of the first days of the invasion, specifically the depth which the ground armored forces reached in the first 2-3 days and what and how they were stopped. The Baltic states "width" is much smaller, and thus there is much less time to organize defense, etc. It is hardly enough time even just for taking the decision to initiate defense. Of course, like in the case with Ukraine, Russia wouldn't succeed if the quick invasion turns instead into a face-to-face war midway. That is why they are looking for a way to create blackout and chaos.
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3. andy_ppp ◴[19 Nov 24 06:42 UTC] No.42180617[source]▶
I’m sure they have a plan to deal with this and loads of NATO troops there armed to the teeth and air superiority so it will be shooting fish in a barrel. We don’t know what will happen but I’m not sure cutting the internet won’t affect Russia pretty badly too - certainly China will not be a fan of the huge disruption it will cause them too.
4. VagabundoP ◴[19 Nov 24 06:43 UTC] No.42180619[source]▶
We had plenty of warning they were going to invade. The units didn't just pop out of nowhere.

Any build up on those borders is now going to be interpreted in that way and you'll have a likely reaction from NATO all across the eastern front.

I doubt they would get very far.

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5. sekai ◴[19 Nov 24 08:18 UTC] No.42181076[source]▶
> thus there is much less time to organize defense, etc.

Russia was concentrating troops alongside the border for months. It started on October 2021, invasion began on February 2022.

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6. Moru ◴[19 Nov 24 08:47 UTC] No.42181264{3}[source]▶
The invasion started 2014 with Krim and have been ongoing since then (Lost a remote coworker that year). This was just the next logical step.
7. xenospn ◴[19 Nov 24 11:46 UTC] No.42182401{3}[source]▶
Never underestimate the European ability to discuss matters and do absolutely nothing while their beds are burning.