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jdietrich ◴[] No.42173139[source]
Bhutan's economy is growing, but it still has a nominal GDP per capita of only $3,700. Their youth unemployment rate is 16%, but 24% in urban areas. For all the talk of gross national happiness, it's hard to imagine a young person feeling happy in a poor country with very limited opportunities for upward mobility.

I'm also not sure that mass emigration should be seen as an existential threat. Many developing economies have very successfully leveraged emigration and remittances as an engine of economic growth. If Bhutan can modernise into a more open economy, those young people could start returning home with the skills, experience and capital to do great things.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?location...

https://www.nsb.gov.bt/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2023/1...

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2024/03/11/a-stron...

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schainks ◴[] No.42173462[source]
> For all the talk of gross national happiness, it's hard to imagine a young person feeling happy in a poor country with very limited opportunities for upward mobility.

The early North American colonists had the same outlook about life among the Native Americans. However, is never a _single_ instance of a Native American running away from their tribe to join the colonists, but colonist defections to the tribes were a common occurrence, more among women than men.

Why? For all that talk of "upward social mobility and a better life", people figured out the Native Americans were _happy_ living in harmony with nature, and the women who escaped realized they had more personal freedoms with the "savages" versus the high-and-mighty Europeans who sold them on the good life at the colonies.

Upward mobility and money still aren't everything, despite the pressure those forces put on the world to appear so.

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jawilson2 ◴[] No.42174223[source]
> However, (there) is never a _single_ instance of a Native American running away from their tribe to join the colonists

I have heard and quoted this for years, but I'm actually questioning whether it is true now. It just seems unbelievable when you think about it, and sort of feeds the "noble savage" trope. Out of hundreds of thousands or millions of Native Americans, there MUST have been some youth, at least one, seduced by the promised of western culture and voluntarily left their tribe and moved to a city or something. It just makes for a better story the other way around. Whether this was documented is another matter I guess.

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1. schainks ◴[] No.42179171[source]
There are multiple primary sources cited in Tribe (http://www.sebastianjunger.com/tribe-by-sebastian-junger).

Among the first things western men did native peoples was rape the women and spread disease. Word spreads fast when it comes to those things.

Also, Captain Cook documented problems with his men raping and spreading disease on _all_ his travels. He lamented he did not have the power to control his men, and weighed disciplining them against facing a mutiny half a world away from a court that could do anything about it.