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Is Chrome the New IE? (2023)

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281 points bentocorp | 6 comments | 17 Nov 24 22:05 UTC | HN request time: 0.846s | source | bottom
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fellowniusmonk ◴[18 Nov 24 19:10 UTC] No.42175790[source]▶
No not even close by every single possible measure.

I was there, I suffered through it, Google would have to make TONS of hostile moves for that fact to change.

I have no interest in the arguments of a closed source subscription service that wants me to switch to the bundled browser of the wealthiest company on earth's most popular consumer OS, lecturing me about using the 4th wealthiest company on earth's browser that I freely installed.

The most important one from an anti-trust perspective, every device I've ever had Chrome on I've had to seek out and install/make default Chrome, that includes my mobile devices which used the manufactures browser by default.

If I want to use chromium I can, Safari has been VERY late in implementing certain industry spec standards (SSE's, web sockets, IndexedDB API, animations, relative color syntax, container queries, a bunch of <video> stuff, flexbox, the list goes on and on.)

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pjmlp ◴[18 Nov 24 20:56 UTC] No.42176917[source]▶
It definitely is, I was also there, just like everyone was doing IE only sites, not only plenty of people do the same with ChromeOS vision of the Web, they ship Chrome alongside Electron crap.

Safari is the last man standing before a ChromeOS world.

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onion2k ◴[18 Nov 24 21:24 UTC] No.42177223[source]▶
Safari is the last man standing before a ChromeOS world.

Except it isn't. Maybe I'm being slightly obtuse here, but the world is not "Chrome Vs Safari". It's "Chrome Vs Safari Vs native apps". If Safari dies we'll be in a world of "Chrome Vs native apps", and that is what Apple wants. Browsers represent a way to deliver software to users that's outside of Apple's revenue mechanisms.

Apple have every incentive to keep Safari being good-not-great at running web apps, so users prefer the native version (even though most of the time that'll be Electron.)

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bloppe ◴[18 Nov 24 21:44 UTC] No.42177436[source]▶
Am I the only one left happily using Firefox? You know, the only "major" browser that doesn't seem to have these conflicts of interest?
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1. lmm ◴[19 Nov 24 00:26 UTC] No.42178852[source]▶
The Firefox that gets the vast majority of its revenue from Google, that Firefox?

I think the only full-featured browser with a prosocial funding model is Konqueror, where what little money there is mostly comes from EU grants. Not coincidental that its code quality was so much better that everyone else based on its rendering engine.

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2. eMPee584 ◴[19 Nov 24 01:15 UTC] No.42179175[source]▶
and until recently, the only browser that allows to split the view into independent sub-windows..
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3. j16sdiz ◴[19 Nov 24 02:29 UTC] No.42179563[source]▶
Konqueror is underfunded and can't catch up with the standards
4. jetofff ◴[19 Nov 24 21:20 UTC] No.42188204[source]▶
wait how'd you do this
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5. lmm ◴[20 Nov 24 00:23 UTC] No.42189563{3}[source]▶
It's in the right click menu, or there's a key command for it.
6. zero_bias ◴[21 Nov 24 04:35 UTC] No.42201162[source]▶
Konqueror no longer uses its unique KHTML engine and has switched to working on top of WebKit/Safari, making it just a wrapper, similar to Brave. It’s a pity that the last truly independent player in the browser engine market is gone, but such are the realities.