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Two undersea cables in Baltic Sea disrupted

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577 points mooreds | 2 comments | 18 Nov 24 14:31 UTC | HN request time: 0.589s | source
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fffffffff4322 ◴[18 Nov 24 20:38 UTC] No.42176700[source]▶
I do not support the war, or violence in general.

But EU & NATO ante engaged in a hybrid war with Russia.

- It actively supports a military which is engaged with Russian forces

- It has seized Russian financial assets

- I doubt that attacks on Russian infrastructure are perpetuated (planned & executed) just buy Ukrainian forces

I do not try to support any side by this statement. My point is that by any rational account is a “hybrid involvement”. EU & NATO are part of an active conflict.

This makes them targets for symmetrical actions — economic warfare by means of sabotage.

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1. nazgob ◴[18 Nov 24 20:51 UTC] No.42176856[source]▶
Russia has been involved in sabotage, shooting down planes with Europeans (MH17), killing people they don't like in EU/UK for years now. If anything EU is extremely timid and does not retaliate.
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2. fffffffff4322 ◴[18 Nov 24 21:57 UTC] No.42177554[source]▶
I am not endorsing Russia.

- shooting down civilians planes is something quite common in military operations (see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Arab_Airlines_Flight_... ). A bunch of 20 somethings handling equipment designed for mass murder. What could possibly go wrong?

- extra judicial killings on foreign soil are more common than you expect (remember the Saudis ? Or the Indian assassinated in Canada recently)

Russia is an authoritarian system by any account it holds responsibility for repulsive acts. But the current narrative is at best naive.