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577 points mooreds | 2 comments | 18 Nov 24 14:31 UTC | HN request time: 0.432s | source
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leshokunin ◴[18 Nov 24 20:06 UTC] No.42176328[source]▶
The constant Russian interference, combined with the regular escalation from the jets patrolling, and the radar jamming, really needs to be dealt with.

We're stuck between having to do timid actions and full NATO escalation. This feels like constant creep.

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1. switchbak ◴[18 Nov 24 20:42 UTC] No.42176752[source]▶
Should Russia "fight back"? Did NATO aligned countries cross multiple red lines with too much provocation? ... This has been argued to death, and I'm not wasting my time on that here.

Were it not for the nuclear concern, Russia could be dispatched by a modern military in short order. They're having enough of a challenge with Ukraine. Against a real military with SEAD/DEAD, you would witness an Iraq 1991-style collapse within weeks, perhaps less.

Of course, the problem is the nukes. Which is exactly why you see these countries work so hard to get them.

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2. CapricornNoble ◴[18 Nov 24 21:08 UTC] No.42177062[source]▶
> Against a real military with SEAD/DEAD, you would witness an Iraq 1991-style collapse within weeks, perhaps less

Other than the US....can you name some "real militaries with SEAD/DEAD" that actually have deep enough ordnance stockpiles, sufficient basing/aerial refueling to support a sustained air campaign against a country as large and well-equipped as Russia, etc..?