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sgt ◴[] No.42175354[source]
I've actually had a node project go bad in a mere 4 months. It must be a new record. That was about 4-5 years ago though.

Hopefully the ecosystem as improved since then, but it was nearly impossible to get going.

Some packages had been changed and the version number overwritten with incompatible packages, and the conflicts were plenty.

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jerf ◴[] No.42175556[source]
One of the things I'm intrigued by is that JS people, and the other couple of ecosystems where this is a big problem, go out to learn another language (as a good T-shaped developer does), and then start posting frantic questions to the new language's communities about how this popular library hasn't had a commit in six weeks, is it dead, oh my gosh wtf aaaaaaaaaaa.

It's OK. Not every language ecosystem is so busted that you can reliably expect a project not to work if someone isn't staring at it weekly and building it over and over again just in case. Now, it's always a risk, sure, no language anywhere is immune to the issue [1], but there's plenty of languages where you can encounter things from 5 years ago and your default presumption is that it's probably still working as well now as it did then. It may be wrong, but it's an OK default presumption.

[1]: Well... no language in common use anyhow. There's some really fringe stuff that uses what is basically content-based references for code dependencies, but I'm not aware of anything that I'd call "production quality" that even remotely looks like that, and is immune to someone just plain making an error with the semantic versioning or whatever.

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rootnod3 ◴[] No.42175615[source]
These JS developers would probably shiver at seeing many Common Lisp repos with a last commit like 12 years ago and still working like a charm.
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abdisalan ◴[] No.42175679[source]
I’m curious, how do you measure the pulse of a project that old? Do people still talk about it? Or that not even necessary — use it until it breaks and otherwise don’t think about it?
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1. toast0 ◴[] No.42175769{3}[source]
If it has an issue tracker, you can look in there for things that look like real issues and are unaddressed.

If there's no issue tracker, you can YOLO and try it and see if it works, or you can look around at the code and see if it looks reasonable.

Even if there are unaddressed issues, you can always use it and fix it when it breaks. If it's reasonable enough, it's a good start anyway. And at least my assumption with open source is I'm going to be fixing it when it breaks, so lack of a pulse is better than churn.