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573 points huntaub | 6 comments | | HN request time: 1.252s | source | bottom

Hey HN, I’m Hunter the founder of Regatta Storage (https://regattastorage.com). Regatta Storage is a new cloud file system that provides unlimited pay-as-you-go capacity, local-like performance, and automatic synchronization to S3-compatible storage. For example, you can use Regatta to instantly access massive data sets in S3 with Spark, Pytorch, or pandas without paying for large, local disks or waiting for the data to download.

Check out an overview of how the service works here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh1q5p7E4JY, and you can try it for free at https://regattastorage.com after signing up for an account. We wanted to let you try it without an account, but we figured that “Hacker News shares a file system and S3 bucket” wouldn’t be the best experience for the community.

I built Regatta after spending nearly a decade building and operating at-scale cloud storage at places like Amazon’s Elastic File System (EFS) and Netflix. During my 8 years at EFS, I learned a lot about how teams thought about their storage usage. Users frequently told me that they loved how simple and scalable EFS was, and -- like S3 -- they didn’t have to guess how much capacity they needed up front.

When I got to Netflix, I was surprised that there wasn’t more usage of EFS. If you looked around, it seemed like a natural fit. Every application needed a POSIX file system. Lots of applications had unclear or spikey storage needs. Often, developers wanted their storage to last beyond the lifetime of an individual instance or container. In fact, if you looked across all Netflix applications, some ridiculous amount of money was being spent on empty storage space because each of these local drives had to be overprovisioned for potential usage.

However, in many cases, EFS wasn’t the perfect choice for these workloads. Moving workloads from local disks to NFS often encountered performance issues. Further, applications which treated their local disks as ephemeral would have to manually “clean up” left over data in a persistent storage system.

At this point, I realized that there was a missing solution in the cloud storage market which wasn’t being filled by either block or file storage, and I decided to build Regatta.

Regatta is a pay-as-you-go cloud file system that automatically expands with your application. Because it automatically synchronizes with S3 using native file formats, you can connect it to existing data sets and use recently written file data directly from S3. When data isn’t actively being used, it’s removed from the Regatta cache, so you only pay for the backing S3 storage. Finally, we’re developing a custom file protocol which allows us to achieve local-like performance for small-file workloads and Lustre-like scale-out performance for distributed data jobs.

Under the hood, customers mount a Regatta file system by connecting to our fleet of caching instances over NFSv3 (soon, our custom protocol). Our instances then connect to the customer’s S3 bucket on the backend, and provide sub-millisecond cached-read and write performance. This durable cache allows us to provide a strongly consistent, efficient view of the file system to all connected file clients. We can perform challenging operations (like directory renaming) quickly and durably, while they asynchronously propagate to the S3 bucket.

We’re excited to see users share our vision for Regatta. We have teams who are using us to build totally serverless Jupyter notebook servers for their AI researchers who prefer to upload and share data using the S3 web UI. We have teams who are using us as a distributed caching layer on top of S3 for low-latency access to common files. We have teams who are replacing their thin-provisioned Ceph boot volumes with Regatta for significant savings. We can’t wait to see what other things people will build and we hope you’ll give us a try at regattastorage.com.

We’d love to get any early feedback from the community, ideas for future direction, or experiences in this space. I’ll be in the comments for the next few hours to respond!

1. weinzierl ◴[] No.42175235[source]
The title says POSIX but then it talks about NFS. So, what is it? Does it guarantee all POSIX semantics or not?
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2. huntaub ◴[] No.42175277[source]
You are correct in that NFS is not strictly-speaking POSIX compliant to the letter of the law, due to the caching behavior. This is an NFSv3 file system, so it shares those semantics. The point that I'm trying to emphasize is that the file system supports standard file operations which aren't possible through other FUSE adapters, or possible to perform efficiently on S3 (such as append, rename, and symbolic links) -- which provides broad compatibility with file-based applications.
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3. weinzierl ◴[] No.42175728[source]
Which is nice and useful of course but there is ton of things that can't reliably be done with that (like running any database you that comes to mind) which makes it important to be precise here.
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4. huntaub ◴[] No.42175820{3}[source]
Is there something specific that you worry about when running a database on a networked file system? I would imagine that any database which is correctly fsync'ing the data to the write-ahead-log should work just fine.
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5. weinzierl ◴[] No.42189101{4}[source]
First of all databases don't support running on NFS. It is an unsupported configuration.

The deeper reason for that is, that the consistency guarantees from NFS (close-to-open consistency) are a lot weaker than what you get from POSIX.

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6. huntaub ◴[] No.42192720{5}[source]
I don’t know if I agree, for example, Postgres has this [1] to say about using NFS as the backing store. I think that part of the challenge is that there are so many implementation details that differ between NFS servers and many configuration options that teams can fiddle with (Postgres specifically calls out “async” as dangerous). Close to open semantics are actually stronger than what something like XFS offers (because XFS isn’t required to flush data to disk on file close), and databases should be fsyncing their write ahead logs from the application layer. Like said though, this doesn’t mean that there aren’t certain configurations of NFS which won’t work (async for example means that NFS servers won’t actually write to non-volatile storage on fsync, which is of course dangerous for any application).

[1] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/creating-cluster.htm...