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The withering dream of a cheap American electric car

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152 points voisin | 2 comments | 17 Nov 24 23:52 UTC | HN request time: 0.4s | source
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GratiaTerra ◴[18 Nov 24 16:22 UTC] No.42173899[source]▶
I took advantage of the IRA solar power and $7500 EV credit, now I have an off grid home all electric appliances and excess power for hot tubs and EV's. The Ford Lightning acts as a generator. This was the greatest most life changing and impactful legistlation ever: I've had $0 (ZERO!) in gasoline, LP, and electric utility bills since installation last year.
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fsckboy[dead post] ◴[18 Nov 24 16:49 UTC] No.42174208[source]▶
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NotSammyHagar ◴[18 Nov 24 17:23 UTC] No.42174616[source]▶
You should be downvoted for your last comment too! Or at least someone could explain the world we live in. Is it confiscatory to have public schools, funded by your taxes, fsck guy (you do have a great handle...)? How about publicly funded (by our taxes too) police and fire protection? Uh, govt funding to help pay for hospitals? Food inspection, are you crazy you might say, the perfectly working markets of our paradise make this not a necessity. People will self report when the water has contaminants - maybe?

Now let's add significantly reducing your own greenhouse gas impact for 20 or 30 years after you buy the demon solar panels (made from dead babies, some right thinking american might say), then putting your own excess electricity on the grid, further reducing fossil fuel generation. So in all thoses cases, that dastardly helpful socialism is for the public good.

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fsckboy ◴[18 Nov 24 17:34 UTC] No.42174732[source]▶
you need to read up on the economics of "public goods", other people have thought this through before you. In a nutshell, police and fire protection benefit everyone, because if your neighbor has low crime or low chance of fire spreading, that also benefits you, so it makes sense to include everyone in the plan. But while the $7500 was paid for by everybody else, the only person with the $0 electric bill is GP, which does not have any fairness property.

The socialist mantra "from those with the ability" includes GP who has the ability to pay for this so that other people's needs can be met.

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1. CtrlAltmanDel ◴[18 Nov 24 18:08 UTC] No.42175096[source]▶
If you had even the slightest clue about what you're pretending to know about, you would realize this $7500 is about the farthest thing possible from the only time the government pays for a benefit that doesn't benefit everyone.

It's just straight up amusing how much you lose your mind over like absolute economic trivialities, because evil renewable energy is a symbol of the liberals.

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2. fsckboy ◴[19 Nov 24 00:51 UTC] No.42179031[source]▶
>amusing how much you lose your mind over like absolute economic trivialities... If you had even the slightest clue about what you're pretending to know about

i didn't lose my mind, all of you have. i just "pointed out"

in terms of "the slightest clue about what you're pretending to know about", i was raised from the crib as a good liberal and socialist, i understand the perspective intimately, then I studied economics at MIT and realized I didn't need to change my morals/sensibilities at all, the free market achieves what socialism is trying to achieve, and then I studied more economics in grad school at MIT... please, tell me your background, and like you suggest, no "pretending to know about"...