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elzbardico ◴[] No.42172833[source]
The militarization of law enforcement and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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graemep ◴[] No.42173879[source]
> The militarization of law enforcement and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Do you mean for the US, rather than the human race? Some of us live in countries where the only weapons most cops carry are truncheons and tasers.

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1. bko ◴[] No.42174716[source]
Its not just the weapons. In parts of Europe you can get arrested for posting the wrong kind of meme online.

As a side note, when trying to research this you'll see weird double speak fact checks like below:

> Fact Check: 11-year-old arrested on suspicion of violent disorder after riots, not ‘mean tweets’

> Sending grossly offensive, obscene, indecent, or menacing messages on public electronic communication networks is a criminal offence in Britain under Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003

> Misleading. An 11-year-old was arrested on suspicion of violent disorder, not for social media posts, during a swathe of arrests by British police targeting those involved in rioting.

But then the authors don't write what 'violent disorder' is.

Then they try to further confuse the matter by talking about a completely unrealted 11 year old boy that was arrested for suspicion of arson

> The spokesperson said the 11-year-old, one of five juveniles arrested on suspicion of violent disorder by the force on Aug. 28 in relation to the riots, was later bailed.

> Cleveland Police arrested another 11-year-old on suspicion of arson after a police vehicle was set alight in Hartlepool on July 31, according to the spokesperson and an Aug. 1 statement, opens new tab . The child was also released on bail, the spokesperson said.

And this isn't some weird online political rag, it's Reuters. It's all very strange.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/11-year-old-arrested-susp...

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2. growse ◴[] No.42175712[source]
> But then the authors don't write what 'violent disorder' is.

"Violent Disorder" is a specific offence listed in the Public Order Act.

> Then they try to further confuse the matter by talking about a completely unrealted 11 year old boy that was arrested for suspicion of arson

The way it reads doesn't seem like it's "completely unrelated" at all.

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3. bko ◴[] No.42176095[source]
> "Violent Disorder" is a specific offence listed in the Public Order Act.

So the article should explain it.

> The way it reads doesn't seem like it's "completely unrelated" at all.

How is this related apart from the person sharing the same age and the town being the same? One is suspected of arson and the other of Violent Disorder? Does this add value to the fact check?

4. illiac786 ◴[] No.42176592[source]
If you insist on the original article being very precise and very exhaustive, you should too: “wrong kind of meme” is very vague. A meme of a swastika will indeed land you in trouble in multiple countries, to pick a lightweight example. What kind of meme do you mean?
5. smsm42 ◴[] No.42177398[source]
I just read about a kid being arrested for $2 bill because the cops didn't know such bills exist. Not the first time it happens too. Some of them aren't exactly brilliant, unfortunately. And there are almost never any consequences for doing stupid while in the uniform.
6. akimbostrawman ◴[] No.42181479[source]
>And this isn't some weird online political rag, it's Reuters

What makes you think they aren't? All news media is inherently biased if they want or not. Not to mention "fact checker" are a prime candidate for corruption.

7. h_tbob ◴[] No.42182434[source]
I don’t mind it being illegal.

But I think a lot of it needs to be treated as a significant mental health issue

8. hulitu ◴[] No.42196830[source]
> And this isn't some weird online political rag, it's Reuters. It's all very strange.

As Musk said: state sponsored propaganda(1).

I don't like the guy, but this one he had it right. (1) NGOs, i know.