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Nordic neighbours release new advice on surviving war

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113 points concerto | 5 comments | 18 Nov 24 16:19 UTC | HN request time: 0.895s | source
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hyggetrold ◴[18 Nov 24 16:56 UTC] No.42174283[source]▶
In retrospect, it seems like it was a bad idea for Western countries to assume that things were going to remain peaceful after the fall of the USSR. Glad to see the threat of war being taken seriously.
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1. Y-bar ◴[18 Nov 24 17:28 UTC] No.42174665[source]▶
Unfortunately it not "just" about war now. The changing climate has also significantly increased the risk for major disruptions on social services such as fresh water supply, electricity, sanitation, and roads/track. We now also need to add those to the list of real risks to prepare for.
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2. mdp2021 ◴[18 Nov 24 17:44 UTC] No.42174839[source]▶
Niall Ferguson recently gave a speech, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocYvwiSYDTA (Address to the 2024 CIS Consilium on the Gold Coast),

in which he says that WWIII may be a more urgent risk. It's a race.

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3. Y-bar ◴[18 Nov 24 18:04 UTC] No.42175055[source]▶
This reminds me of Department of Defense Climate Risk Analysis from three years ago where they remind us that there will be increased international conflicts due to the effects of climate change:

https://media.defense.gov/2021/Oct/21/2002877353/-1/-1/0/DOD... (1.5 MB PDF)

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4. mdp2021 ◴[18 Nov 24 18:10 UTC] No.42175117{3}[source]▶
Interesting (and very plain, understandable, commonsensical) - but of course some running conflicts are not not strongly related to climate change.

Of course, when Niall Ferguson spoke, it looked at the contingency: he sees a possibility of catastrophic consequences that may come much earlier than the climatic "Armageddon". (Well, in some news peices today they spoke about "before Xmas"... It makes the order of events very definite.)

5. illiac786 ◴[19 Nov 24 18:30 UTC] No.42186646[source]▶
I feel the worst will be migration. This is going to be pretty ugly.