Similarly, if you’re in a situation where you cannot guarantee your phone’s security because it’s leaving your possession, and you’re sufficiently worried, again, power off fully.
Similarly, if you’re in a situation where you cannot guarantee your phone’s security because it’s leaving your possession, and you’re sufficiently worried, again, power off fully.
I believe in most countries, customs can inspect your luggage. They can’t force you to reveal information that they’re not even certain you have.
Under your situation, the best idea is to simply have a wiped device. A Chromebook, for example, allows you to login with whatever credentials you choose, including a near empty profile
this isn't a very useful way to think about it.
they can definitely search your luggage, obviously, but the border guards/immigration officials/random law enforcement people hanging around/etc can also just deny non-citizens entry to a country, usually for any or no reason.
there's documented cases of Australia[0] demanding to search phones of even citizens entering the country, and the US CBP explicitly states they may deny entry for non citizens if you don't give them the password and while they can't deny entry to citizens, they state they may seize the device then do whatever they want to it[1].
0: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/18/returning-trav...
1: https://www.cbp.gov/travel/cbp-search-authority/border-searc...
I'd travel with a different device, honestly. I can get a new-in-box android device for under £60 from a shop, travel with that, set it up properly on the other side, and then either leave it behind or wipe it again.
Or, with GrapheneOS, you give them the duress password, on the understanding that you will have to set the device up from scratch IF you ever see it again.
> GrapheneOS provides users with the ability to set a duress PIN/Password that will irreversibly wipe the device (along with any installed eSIMs) once entered anywhere where the device credentials are requested (on the lockscreen, along with any such prompt in the OS).
In a border interrogation scenario, isn't that just likely to get you arrested for destroying evidence?
I chose it because it’s a mainstream provider (Nokia) readily available running a supported version of android (12).
If you want to install a custom rom, you can get an older flagship (galaxy s9) and flash it for about the same price.
My point is if your threat model is devices seized at border, then a burner phone is far more suitable for you than a reboot.
This is a terrible idea. When you're crossing a border you have to submit to the rules of entry. If one of those rules is that you let them create an image of your phone with all of its contents, that's the rule. If you say no, then, if you're lucky, you get to turn around and return to where you came from. If you're not lucky, then you get to go to jail.
What needs doing is the ability to make a backup then a way to reconcile the backup at a later date with the contents of a device. That is, I should be able to backup my phone to my home computer (or cloud I guess) and then wipe my phone or selectively delete contents. Then I travel abroad, take photos and movies, exchange messages with people, and so on. Then when I get home I should be able to restore the contents of my phone that were deleted without having to wipe all the new stuff from the trip.
The advantage of a burner phone is that it can’t contain anything important, because you’ve never put anything important on it, or connected it to any system that contains important data. So it doesn’t really matter if it’s compromised, because the whole point of a burner, is that it’s so unimportant you can burn it the moment it so much as looks at you funny.
No, but the border agents also aren't required to let you into the country. (Generally unless you are a citizen.)
So border agents are very different than general laws of the country because while there may be legal protections about what they may be able to force you to do there are much less protections about when you have the right to pass the border (other than entering countries where you are a citizen).
There are steganographic methods to hide your stuff. You can also use burners on either side of the border crossing and keep your main line clean. But bringing a device full of encrypted data (even if it's just your regular photo collection) that you refuse to unlock will probably be suspicious.
I know that there are times when there are no reasons for suspicion and people get stopped anyway. The border agent didn't like your look, or racism, or an order came down from on high to stop everyone from a particular country and annoy them. If that's the case, it's probably still best to not have a lot of incriminating evidence on your person, encrypted or not.
Additionally, SCOTUS ruled in 2022 (Egbert v Boule) that someone who has had their Fourth Amendment rights violated by CBP agents are not entitled to any damages unless Congress clearly defines a punishment for the violation by a federal agent.
If your threat model is “I think my provider and a nation state are colluding to target me” you probably wouldn’t be posting on HN about it.
My wife works for the government in a low level role that involves some amount of travel to local authorities (other major areas in Scotland). She has a phone, and strict instructions to never carry it across the border ofmany countries (as a blanket policy). They’re told they’ll be provided a device for travelling and not to install any work apps on it. It’s basic security - don’t travel with information that you can lose control over.
Now, if you do it, hat off, and even more if you can hire a lawyer and get justice done, but in that case you definitely are not "a normal person".
They can. And if you refuse, they can do a lot of very unpleasant things to you. It might against the local law, but it wouldn't really matter in a lot of countries.