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Humans have caused 1.5 °C of long-term global warming according to new estimates

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399 points gmays | 1 comments | 17 Nov 24 18:49 UTC | HN request time: 0.215s | source
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chriscappuccio ◴[17 Nov 24 19:29 UTC] No.42166382[source]▶
Wasn't it just a week ago we discovered that widely used models were significantly underestimating CO2 absorption by plants?
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badgersnake ◴[17 Nov 24 20:39 UTC] No.42167015[source]▶
The models may be perfect or imperfect, either way the temperature is still going up.
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thegrim33 ◴[18 Nov 24 01:00 UTC] No.42168755[source]▶
- "Models say X is happening."

- "Well, isn't there this specific problem with the model?"

- "It doesn't matter, because X is happening"

Not sure the line of logic follows there.

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GeoAtreides ◴[18 Nov 24 09:19 UTC] No.42170938[source]▶
your argument has an invalid premise: "Models say X is happening." It's not the models that are saying X (temp goes up) is happening, it's empirical data.

A better argument is:

- We observe X is happening

- create a model of X happening

- use model of X to predict X in the future

- model of X might be or might not be flawed

- meanwhile, X is still happening in the real world

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1. badgersnake ◴[18 Nov 24 09:29 UTC] No.42170979[source]▶
It’s also interesting that this site has been having a collective orgasm over models that frequently give wrong answers for at least a year now. When climate is involved it’s suddenly a big problem.