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167 points billybuckwheat | 4 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source
1. reallyeli ◴[] No.42169670[source]
The survey (https://career-research.mynavi.jp/reserch/20241003_86953/) which is the basis for the 1 in 5 claim seems sus, I would bet it's not true. (I don't read Japanese, but had Claude read it for me; if someone who does read Japanese could confirm, that would be interesting.)

They say 16.6% of people who changed jobs last year used these services, but only 23.2% of companies report having any employees use them. If 16.6% is correct, the % of companies number should be much higher, supposing companies have multiple resignations per year.

The method for the first number on how they found their respondents is described just as "internet survey," with no further info. There are a lot of ways to do this that would over-sample people who use these services.

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2. mahoho ◴[] No.42169705[source]
I'm not gonna read the whole thing but the 23.2% is only for the first half of the year

上半期(2024年1月~6月)に退職代行サービスを利用して退職した人がいた企業は23.2%だった。

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3. reallyeli ◴[] No.42169728[source]
Hmm thanks — what about the historical trend numbers?

> "上半期(2024年1月~6月)に退職代行サービスを利用して退職した人がいた企業は23.2%だった。また、過去の退職代行利用者の実績を年度別に聞くと、2021年は16.3%、2022年は19.5%、2023年は19.9%"

These seem like full-year numbers, but they're much lower than what I'd expect if 23.2% is the half-year number — implying a huge jump in 2024?

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4. 0sp ◴[] No.42170115{3}[source]
I think there is a possibility that this year's figures will be significantly higher.

The resignation agency service was widely reported in Japanese media in the first half of this year, which made its existence known to the public. This trend can also be confirmed on Google Trends[1].

In fact, the representative of 退職代行モームリ (Taishoku-daikō Mōmuri), the largest resignation agency company, stated in an interview that the number of users during this year's onboarding season was ten times that of last year[2].

[1] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=...

[2] https://nikkan-spa.jp/1996502