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Is Chrome the New IE? (2023)

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281 points bentocorp | 6 comments | 17 Nov 24 22:05 UTC | HN request time: 0.865s | source | bottom
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asddubs ◴[18 Nov 24 02:44 UTC] No.42169280[source]▶
Just to (mostly) preempt this because the exact same discussion is had every time this sentiment comes up: Isn't safari the new IE?

Answer: They both are like IE, for different reasons:

Chrome: Pushes proprietary extensions onto the web, which due to their absolute dominance others are somewhat forced to adopt, people develop for it and don't test in any other browser, just like IE

Safari: is coupled to operating system version, lags behind on implementing new features, thus single handedly slowing down when everyone can use new features. Has weird quirks that other browsers don't, just like IE (though not nearly as bad as IE)

So which is like IE? It just depends on what you mean when you say "like IE", the label applies to both because IE was bad for more than one reason

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1. amadeuspagel ◴[18 Nov 24 03:24 UTC] No.42169462[source]▶
What are these proprietary extensions?
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2. asddubs ◴[18 Nov 24 03:38 UTC] No.42169528[source]▶
if you want a really old example, pnacl. If you want a slightly recent one, FLoC. Not saying those are the best examples, they are just what comes to my head first. I don't really keep up super closely.
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3. amadeuspagel ◴[18 Nov 24 04:08 UTC] No.42169636[source]▶
Neither of these are proprietary.
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4. asadotzler ◴[18 Nov 24 05:04 UTC] No.42169852{3}[source]▶
Both are.
5. SquareWheel ◴[18 Nov 24 20:14 UTC] No.42176405[source]▶
pnacl was an example of Google throwing away their homebrewed solution in favour of a common standard (Web Assembly). That seems like a strong argument that they don't push proprietary extensions.
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6. asddubs ◴[18 Nov 24 23:10 UTC] No.42178182{3}[source]▶
it was an example of them pushing proprietary extensions and eventually removing them again. If I start beating you and then eventually someone calms down and I stop, it's not an example of me not beating you