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threeseed ◴[] No.42168350[source]
I suspected this was being managed in the Secure Enclave.

That means it's going to be extremely difficult to disable this even if iOS is fully compromised.

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karlgkk ◴[] No.42168578[source]
If I’m reading this right:

Reboot is not enforced by the SEP, though, only requested. It’s a kernel module, which means if a kernel exploit is found, this could be stopped.

However, considering Apple’s excellent track record on these kind of security measures, I would not at all be surprised to find out that a next generation iPhone would involve the SEP forcing a reboot without the kernels involvement.

what this does is that it reduces the window (to three days) of time between when an iOS device is captured, and a usable* kernel exploit is developed.

* there is almost certainly a known kernel exploit out in the wild, but the agencies that have it generally reserve using them until they really need to - or they’re patched. If you have a captured phone used in a, for example, low stakes insurance fraud case, it’s not at all worth revealing your ownership of a kernel exploit.

Once an exploit is “burned”, they distribute them out to agencies and all affected devices are unlocked at once. This now means that kernel exploits must be deployed within three days, and it’s going to preserve the privacy of a lot of people.

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toomuchtodo ◴[] No.42168622[source]
Would be nice if Apple would expose an option to set the timer to a shorter window, but still great work.
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jojobas ◴[] No.42168670[source]
Or to disable it entirely. Someone could set up and ipad to do something always plugged in, would be bloody annoying to have it locked cold every three days.
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mjevans ◴[] No.42168688[source]
I'd rather have a dedicated Kiosk mode that has a profile of allow-listed applications and one or more that are auto-started.
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1. aspenmayer ◴[] No.42168871[source]
Maybe one or two of these will do what you want?

https://support.apple.com/en-us/105121

> With Screen Time, you can turn on Content & Privacy Restrictions to manage content, apps, and settings on your child's device. You can also restrict explicit content, purchases and downloads, and changes to privacy settings.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/111795

> Guided Access limits your device to a single app and lets you control which features are available.

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2. duskwuff ◴[] No.42168975[source]
Or "single-app mode", which is a more tightly focused kiosk mode:

https://support.apple.com/guide/apple-configurator-mac/start...