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softwaredoug ◴[] No.42157774[source]
The way to deal with this is to constantly do live events, and actually build organizational muscle. Not these massive one off events in an area the tech team has no experience in.
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geor9e ◴[] No.42158854[source]
They've been doing live events since 2023. But it's hard to be prepared for something that's never been done by anyone before — a superbowl scale event, entirely viewed over the internet. The superbowl gets to offload to cable and over the air. Interestingly, I didn't have any problems with my stream. So it sounds like the bandwidth problems might be localized, perhaps by data center or ISP.
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patrick451 ◴[] No.42165472[source]
The ISP hypothesis doesn't make sense to me. I could not stream the live event from Netflix. But I could watch any other show on netflix or youtube or hulu at the same time.
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1. geor9e ◴[] No.42168193{3}[source]
Some ISPs have on-site Netflix Open Connect racks. The advantage of this is that they get a high-priority quality of service data stream into the rack, which then serves the cached content to the ISP customers. If your ISP doesn't have a big enough Netflix rack and it gets saturated, then you're getting your streams at the whim of congestion on the open internet. A live stream is a few seconds of video downloaded, and it has to make it over the congestion of the internet in a few seconds and then repeat. If a single one of these repeats hits congestion and gets delayed, you see the buffering spinning wheel. Other shows, on the other hand, can show the cached Netflix splash animation for 10 seconds while they request 20 minutes of cache until they get it. So, dropped packets don't matter much. Even if the internet is seeing congestion every couple of minutes, delaying your packets, it won't matter as non-live content is very flexible and patient about when it receives the next 20-minute chunk. I'm not an ISP or Netflix engineer, so don't take these as exact numbers. I'm just explaining how the "bandwidth problems might be localized" hypothesis can make sense from my general understanding.