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Humans have caused 1.5 °C of long-term global warming according to new estimates

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399 points gmays | 3 comments | 17 Nov 24 18:49 UTC | HN request time: 0.673s | source
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oezi ◴[17 Nov 24 19:06 UTC] No.42166179[source]▶
Looking into the numbers a couple if months ago I was surprised how little it costs to stop climate change.

On the order of 100-200 trillion USD. Which is roughly 100-200% of global yearly GDP. Or 2-5% of yearly GDP until 2050. This could well be provided by printing money at all the federal reserve banks.

This investment will likely bring in a positive return on investment because it reduces the negative climate impacts.

Without such investments the downstream costs in climate change adaptation will be very expensive

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1. jiggawatts ◴[17 Nov 24 20:43 UTC] No.42167052[source]▶
This is a fantasy.

Trump just won an election in a very large part because -- and I quote -- "Prices are high!"

People were talking about gas prices, food prices, etc...

Any politician that would raise prices deliberately for any reason will be immediately voted out and replaced by literally anybody that doesn't do so, even someone like Trump.

The evidence for this should be fresh in your collective minds right now.

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2. deprecative ◴[17 Nov 24 20:58 UTC] No.42167181[source]▶
"Prices are high!" came with both a lack of counter narrative from the Democratic candidate AND a scapegoated narrative that blames the government and migrants for the prices. If you give the masses a narrative they'll buy in. All you need to do is provide a meaningful narrative that accurately describes the situation and builds solidarity/class consciousness.
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3. gruez ◴[17 Nov 24 21:19 UTC] No.42167380[source]▶
>and builds solidarity/class consciousness.

Likely Trump voters are about the least likely to be receptive to terms like "solidarity/class consciousness", and implying that they're rubes that can't think for themselves is the exact sort of rhetoric that caused the Democrats to lose the election.