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pier25 ◴[] No.42164501[source]
> I like to argue that some of the most productive days of the web were the PHP and JQuery spaghetti days

I've wondered if going back to that paradigm would be more productive or not than using React et al.

Plenty of big sites like Amazon or Steam still are made this way. Not exactly PHP + jQuery but rendering HTML on the server and sprinkling some JS on top of it.

Has anyone gone back to working like that?

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1. RadiozRadioz ◴[] No.42164666[source]
I've found that to be the case for my personal projects. Not less for the fact that I don't have to spend any time googling anything. I can just write code. I've used web tech for so many years that I don't need to learn anything anymore if I'm not in a framework. Outside a framework, it's all just the same stuff that's always been there.

Even today's LLM-assisted programming doesn't give me that fluidity. If I use LLMs to assist me in writing a big framework, it'll autocomplete stuff I haven't learned yet, so I need to retroactively research it to understand it.

JS soup on a webpage is a mess, but it's all using the same tools that I know well, and that to me is productive.