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244 points steve-benjamins | 6 comments | 15 Nov 24 13:23 UTC | HN request time: 0.403s | source | bottom
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mtlynch ◴[16 Nov 24 18:26 UTC] No.42158079[source]▶
I appreciate that the author disclosed it, but the reason they went to all this effort is likely that they expect to make money as an affiliate for the platforms that they recommended.

Affiliate-driven reviews introduce a major bias into the author's opinion, as they have incentive to speak more positively about platforms that are likely to pay the most.

And email marketing platforms pay a lot in affiliate fees. Just scanning some of the recommendations, if someone signs up for MailerLite through this reviewer's link, they'll pay the reviewer 30% of that subscriber's fees forever.[0] I wouldn't be surprised if the reviewer's top pick is coincidentally the platform with the highest-paying affiliate program.

The thing that really woke me up to affiliate-influenced reviews was the 2017 article, "The War To Sell You A Mattress Is An Internet Nightmare."[1] The reporter figured out that top YouTube mattress reviewers just gave positive reviews to whichever company paid the most in affiliate fees, and when one company lowered their fees, the reviewers retroactively downranked them for contrived reasons.

[0] https://www.mailerlite.com/affiliate

[1] https://www.fastcompany.com/3065928/sleepopolis-casper-blogg...

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steve-benjamins ◴[16 Nov 24 18:31 UTC] No.42158118[source]▶
Op here. I sort of agree but all these tools offer affiliate programs and I can assure you we chose MailerLite because we think it’s a tool we can use for 5-10 years.

That being said: besides running a startup (Atlist.com) I also run an affiliate site (it’s how we funded Atlist) and I would agree there is good reason to read affiliate websites skeptically. I regularly receive offers from website builders to “buy” the top spot in my best website builder roundup. https://www.sitebuilderreport.com/best-website-builder

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1. hartator ◴[17 Nov 24 13:30 UTC] No.42164105[source]▶
Shouldn’t you focus full-time on Altist instead of affiliate marketing?

This seems an actual interesting product.

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2. haliskerbas ◴[17 Nov 24 14:30 UTC] No.42164359[source]▶
Similarly where do you feel like Elon, another entrepreneur should focus, Tesla, SpaceX, Neuralink, the AI thing, being a bully on X?

Should we police the bandwidth of every founder?

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3. theFco ◴[17 Nov 24 17:06 UTC] No.42165312[source]▶
While I think (as others say) we should not police op's time, I would like to know what is the reasoning the used when choosing between focusing and not having all your eggs in one basket.

I think arguments by people making these choices would be very educational to me (as a person with a bit of a scatterd brain).

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4. kremi ◴[17 Nov 24 18:00 UTC] No.42165665[source]▶
This is anecdotal but

- A company I worked for wanted to be 100% focused on doing one thing. It was spending 10x more than it was making revenue. It went bankrupt.

- Another company I worked for always insisted on not having all eggs in one basket. There was one big revenue maker that dwarfed the others though. The company is still around and doing well.

I have quite a scattered brain too so I get the appeal of "choosing to focus". But looking others do it I see the risks : refusing to experiment and learn new stuff, or find new opportunities.

EDIT: I'd like to add that focusing or not focusing is not a useful dichotomy, it's more about finding the right "exploration vs exploitation" balance.

5. qingcharles ◴[18 Nov 24 01:23 UTC] No.42168884[source]▶
And weirdly the dude is asking his staff to work "80+ hour weeks" on his alt account:

https://x.com/cb_doge/status/1858177342436233511

6. blackqueeriroh ◴[18 Nov 24 06:20 UTC] No.42170201[source]▶
Probably he should focus on seeing a therapist and repairing his relationship with his kid